Was sind den das für beschissene Spiele

[ppp]

Wofür braucht ein Dieb ein Schwert, wenn er von einem Gegner mit einem Schwerthieb niedergestreckt wird. Das laden des Bogens ist so was von beschissen programmiert, bevor ich jemanden niederstrecken, sprich den Bogen gespannt habe, ist dieser schon wieder aus dem Sichtbereich verschwunden. Weiterhin braucht man eine riesige Anzahl an Pfeilen bevor man jemanden erledigen kann. Die dürftige Ausbeute an Pfeilen ist außerdem zu bemängeln. Da hatten die Programmierer der Thief Reihe doch mehr auf den Kasten, als die hier sich profilierenden Möchtegern Programmierer. Einfach alles nur grottenschlecht gemacht.

 

[chakkman]

Wenn du meinst.  

Englisch ist hier übrigens die Hauptsprache, wenn du möchtest, dass dich jemand versteht.

[jaxa]

It's a Thief-like game, not AssCreed.

[thebigh]

"Waaa waaaa waaaaah! I suck at stealth and everyone else is to blame"

[Zerush]

12 hours ago, ppp said:

Wofür braucht ein Dieb ein Schwert, wenn er von einem Gegner mit einem Schwerthieb niedergestreckt wird. Das laden des Bogens ist so was von beschissen programmiert, bevor ich jemanden niederstrecken, sprich den Bogen gespannt habe, ist dieser schon wieder aus dem Sichtbereich verschwunden. Weiterhin braucht man eine riesige Anzahl an Pfeilen bevor man jemanden erledigen kann. Die dürftige Ausbeute an Pfeilen ist außerdem zu bemängeln. Da hatten die Programmierer der Thief Reihe doch mehr auf den Kasten, als die hier sich profilierenden Möchtegern Programmierer. Einfach alles nur grottenschlecht gemacht.

 

Kann ich alles nicht nachvollziehen was du da von dir gibst, auch nicht das du dich extra in einem Forum anmeldest nur um rumzustänkern über ein Spiel das dir kostenlos angeboten wird. Ich bin auch kein professioneller Spieler und auch mit weit über 70 erlebten Sonnenumrundungen von meinen Reaktionszeiten junger Spieler weit entfernt, aber bis jetzt hab ich jede Mission mit einer Überzahl von Pfeilen beenden können. Sehr zu empfehlen mal in die mitgelieferten Übungsmissionen vorbeizuschauen um Zielen und Schiessen zu üben.

Das Schwert hab ich bis jetzt nur sehr selten gebraucht, aber wenn, dann auch erfolgreich, aber damit einem erfahrenen Soldaten bekämpfen zu wollen zeigt nur das du auch nicht in der Lage bist den Sinn von "heimlich" zu begreifen. Dazu braucht man eben nur ein wenig Intelligenz, Geschick, Planung und Strategie die in dem Spiel nunmal notwendig ist. 

Ein wenig Respekt und Erziehung zu lernen wäre auch nicht falsch

 

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I can't understand anything you're saying, including the fact that you're registering in a forum just to complain about a game that's being offered to you for free. I'm not a professional player either, and with well over 70 trips around the sun I'm far from the reaction times of young players, but so far I've been able to finish every mission with an excess of arrows. Highly recommended to take a look at the included training missions to practice aiming and shooting.

I've only used the sword very rarely so far, but when I did, it was successful. Wanting to use it to fight an experienced soldier just shows that you're not able to understand the meaning of "stealth". All you need is a little intelligence, skill, planning and strategy, which is necessary in this game.

Learning a little respect and education wouldn't be wrong either

[datiswous]

Hey look a German troll

[Zerush]

These A...les make me sick, creating an account for this.

[thebigh]

A lot of people expect TDM to play and feel just like Thief with better graphics. Then they get thrown out by things behaving a bit differently and get their butts kicked. None of the easy, cheesy things learned from 20 years of T1 and T2 work and then they get ganked by a guard who'd have been trivial to KO or avoid in a Dark Engine game. Most people react with, "hey, this is actually a completely different game, I should play it on its own merits" and not "AAAA! IT'S SHIT! HOW DARE YOU! RAAAAGH!!!"

[chakkman]

I always had my niggles with TDM too, but, overall it's very good (not perfect), and, I wouldn't dare to call the developers incompetent. Actually, what they did with the Doom 3 engine is amazing. And, the item handling is some of the best I've ever seen in a game, paid or free.

The blackjacking is still my #1 problem with the game though. It's just absolutely random and unpredictable.

Edited August 7 by chakkman

[Zerush]

I use the nice existing mod for TDM which is extremly usefull, anyway I think that TDM is on eye level or even better than much commercial games and by far the best free game I know in almost all aspects. Bugs? yes, naturally exists, but normal and mostly with a fast fix in the Mission updates.

Somewhat strange that in last versions the holy water not longer work with water arrows, but on the other hand it's more effective to eliminate an undeath, but this, one bottle per undead, not as before an effective weapon for certain time with the water arrow.

Well, adapting the strategy fix it, not a problem.

[chakkman]

2 hours ago, Zerush said:

I use the nice existing mod for TDM which is extremly usefull, anyway I think that TDM is on eye level or even better than much commercial games and by far the best free game I know in almost all aspects.

I agree.

Actually, when I first tried it, I wasn't into mods at all. I tried a couple, and always dismissed them, because they were buggy, and often, simply bad. Let's just say that TDM really upped my impression of community work at that time.

Edited August 7 by chakkman

[wesp5]

2 hours ago, Zerush said:

I use the nice existing mod for TDM which is extremly usefull, anyway I think that TDM is on eye level or even better than much commercial games and by far the best free game I know in almost all aspects. Bugs? yes, naturally exists, but normal and mostly with a fast fix in the Mission updates.

Somewhat strange that in last versions the holy water not longer work with water arrows, but on the other hand it's more effective to eliminate an undeath, but this, one bottle per undead, not as before an effective weapon for certain time with the water arrow.

I assume you use my Unofficial Patch which fixes my main issue with blackjacking in TDM which is the magical immunity many enemies get once they are alerted. With that removed it's much easier to knock everybody out than before! And I must admit that I indeed messed up the modified holy water usage recently, but I already fixed that in the last update, so please download the latest version.

Edited August 7 by wesp5

[Zerush]

On 8/7/2026 at 6:44 PM, wesp5 said:

I assume you use my Unofficial Patch which fixes my main issue with blackjacking in TDM which is the magical immunity many enemies get once they are alerted. With that removed it's much easier to knock everybody out than before! And I must admit that I indeed messed up the modified holy water usage recently, but I already fixed that in the last update, so please download the latest version.

Oh, the modified holy water don't bother me much, the other way arround. It's way more effective as before, it is like knocking out an guard, while before with the water arrows, the undeath often only get fucked up, needing 2 or more shots.

Maybe better to put more holy water bottles in the missions, or make water arrows with it stronger. 

(Implementing holy water arrows?)

Some 3D zombies I found (free), maybe usefull

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/zombie-6ff73b06cf63405d9557720c78cf5e0c

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/possessed-undead-7394bdf26d664810b42b83153411cf74

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/terrifying-hooded-horror-woman-f59d17be392f4494a5b85d927df48ffd  (Mother Rose update?)

Edited August 8 by Zerush