Springheel's Stuff

[Fidcal]

Give me a day and I can upload it. I've got to remove the spiders but basically have one of every valid AI that will be in Release 1 and every skin and head. But note that not all heads are attached so these don't show in-game. You'd have to view them in Dark Radiant. Perhaps angua's map is better to test this then.

 

This map also has every player tool and weapon.

[Tels]

Give me a day and I can upload it. I've got to remove the spiders but basically have one of every valid AI that will be in Release 1 and every skin and head. But note that not all heads are attached so these don't show in-game. You'd have to view them in Dark Radiant. Perhaps angua's map is better to test this then.

 

This map also has every player tool and weapon.

 

Very cool. Since the map will be read by my script, it doesn't matter whether the entities are not in game, as long as they are mentioned in the map file, it is fine.

 

Will be a good way to ensure the package integrity

[Fidcal]

OK, I'll commit the map tomorrow on its own even if the whole startpack 3 is not finished. The map itself is OK I just got to rip out the spiders.

[Fidcal]

I've committed startmap_devel_test.map to the devel folder. Move it where you want but I thought it a bad idea to put it in the maps/test folder as it is not for use except for a packaging test and might be confusing to others. I removed the spiders and vine arrows.

[Tels]

I've committed startmap_devel_test.map to the devel folder. Move it where you want but I thought it a bad idea to put it in the maps/test folder as it is not for use except for a packaging test and might be confusing to others. I removed the spiders and vine arrows.

 

Thanx a lot! Would be cool if you could replace the startpack.pk4 sometime, because it can be easier used by my script.

[Fidcal]

Should be done later today or at worst in a day or two I hope.

[Fidcal]

Startpack 3 is committed now btw. You'll find it at fms/startmap/startmap.pk4. I deleted the temp test map in devel.

[Springheel]

IIRC there's just a spawnarg for the AI's projectile. Should be an easy change.

 

Done now.

[Crispy]

That is very cool.

[Fidcal]

So if AI can use melee weapons andranged weapons is it possible one day for archers to switch to a dagger or shortsword if the player gets up close? I've not tested the archers extensively but what I did when I ran up to attack him with a sword he could still shoot me with an arrow when I was touching him. Or I'd like to see him backing off to get range.

[greebo]

Yes, the CombatState already contains code to make that decision to switch weapons, although the scripts doing the DrawWeapon/SheatheWeapon algorithms cannot deal yet with that. I think this can be delivered in the next update.

[Dram]

Done now.

 

LOL...that is pro

 

Works correctly etc right? In which case we have a mage?

[Springheel]

Works correctly etc right? In which case we have a mage?

 

Well, he only throws them if he can't get to you. Otherwise, he uses his hammer. Probably wouldn't be hard to set up an AI that throws them by default, but that's for post 1.0.

[Tels]

Well, he only throws them if he can't get to you. Otherwise, he uses his hammer. Probably wouldn't be hard to set up an AI that throws them by default, but that's for post 1.0.

 

Does he throw his hammer first?

[Ishtvan]

Btw, the imp fireball can be a performance hit on older machines (at least the fire arrow was on my old machine). If we're ever going to have a few priests in the same place at the same time shooting out fireballs, we might want to switch to a non-shadowcasting fireball. Although maybe the imp one is okay and it's only our larger-light-radius fire arrow that can cause problems.

[Springheel]

Ok, the elite guard is rigged to the new skeleton (not the head yet). I'll upload him as soon as a switch back to the main trunk.

 

[HappyCheeze]

Ooooh, now thats elite.

 

Great as usual Springheel

[Crispy]

Awesome! Nice to have him in the game. And yeah, that breastplate definitely screams "elite"! Something looks wrong about that head though... (not sitting right? wrong size? perspective distortion from the screenshot?)

[Springheel]

Yeah, it does look a bit off in the screenshots, but it looks fine in-game, though it's actually the proguard head. I'll get to the elite helmets at some point.

[Crispy]

OK, good to hear. And yeah, I recognised it, just mentioning it in case there was an offset needed adjusting or similar.

[Springheel]

Ok, the noblewoman is finally rigged to the new skeleton. There are still a few tweaks to be made, and there's no shadowmesh yet.

 

She doesn't look too bad with the current animations, other than the shoulders being a bit broad (nowhere near as bad as I thought they would be though), and the lowskirt joints are spread too far apart (causing that weird distortion on the front of the dress).

 

 

I'll update the current version so people can start putting her into maps (though she has a grumbler voice right now).

 

edit: Oh, she's not using noisycricket's female walk yet, either. I have to find it first.

 

edit: One other thing--she's currently the same size/height as the male characters. I plan on making her slightly smaller, but I have to brush up on how I did that last year.

[HappyCheeze]

Shes pretty.

[Springheel]

Ok, the elite guard head is ready for the first update, so we'll need to let people know about the KO immune helmet.

 

[Springheel]

Going to revive this thread after four years....

 

This isn't important enough to post anywhere else, but after playing Thief4 for a while, I've come to appreciate the value of what I call "gothic greebles"...basically simple props that add interest to an otherwise plain, flat scene, like bits of hanging rope, refuse, etc. Simply putting brackets on the side of a building can go a long way towards creating visual interest, interesting shadows, etc. And then adding versions that mappers would otherwise have to spend a lot of time making individually should provide a quick and easy way for mappers to make really detailed, interesting scenes.

 

Here's an example of a sequence of wooden brackets. All are the same model but with slightly different accents, so you can make most of the supports the default, and then throw in one or two different ones to add extra interest. I used to just make one model and then add the extra bits by hand in my own map, but it makes so much more sense (and is much quicker) to just build the extras right into the model and offer it as a varient. The rope and nails in the shot below are all part of the individual model, so what you're looking at is three different models in a 'family' of bracket models. The middle one is the plain default. (the wood has multiple skins as well).

[Bikerdude]

I like the bevels on the end of said supports, it sofens the sharp egdes etc. And talking of which, does the beam parallel to the wall have bevels on the vertical edges..? as they look 'soft' also.