Fidcal Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Added both 'save as' name and save blocker suggestions to bugtracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thanks Fidcal! @Gildoran: Should I assign issue #424 to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I agree that the current implementation sucks, particularly since the Save command isn't actually disabled, it just silently does nothing. I agree that save should always save. Tracked here: http://bugs.angua.at/view.php?id=423 Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 And fixed (issue #423). Was a trivial fix, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 And fixed (issue #423). Was a trivial fix, obviously. You are too fast for me Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildoran Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 @Gildoran: Should I assign issue #424 to you? Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 There you are. I gather you have a DarkRadiant build environment set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 But wait a second, this non-saving when you want to might be good for a while yet, as a sort of detector of bugs! I mean that the asterisk may be sometimes inaccurate, such as the other day for Fidcal, and if the game won't save when you KNOW it should be, you can report the issue to improve the asterisk accuracy. If saves always work, we'll have to just pay more attention to the asterisk to make sure it's working properly (but I suppose that is good enough, so never mind all that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbWeaver Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 If saves always work, we'll have to just pay more attention to the asterisk to make sure it's working properly (but I suppose that is good enough, so never mind all that!) I think most users would be more concerned that their data is saved when they think it is, rather than whether the asterisk is working accurately enough. (Or where you being sarcastic? I'm not sure) Quote DarkRadiant homepage ⋄ DarkRadiant user guide ⋄ OrbWeaver's Dark Ambients ⋄ Blender export scripts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'm just saying for now, during development, not for final public release. But I actually think it's not worth it, and I agree with the sentiment that having save work when you want no matter what outweighs the extra notification of asterisk error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think the presence/absence of the asterisk itself is notification enough of an "asterisk error". Quote My games | Public Service Announcement: TDM is not set in the Thief universe. The city in which it takes place is not the City from Thief. The player character is not called Garrett. Any person who contradicts these facts will be subjected to disapproving stares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildoran Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 There you are. I gather you have a DarkRadiant build environment set up? Yep, I got it built with MinGW, and I'm going to try out Eclipse for code lookup/etc. How might I get set up to contribute to SVN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Yep, I got it built with MinGW, and I'm going to try out Eclipse for code lookup/etc. How might I get set up to contribute to SVN?Create an account on sourceforge and send OrbWeaver a PM (of course a small monetary concession might speed up things. ). Btw: I also have a Visual C++ solution for DarkRadiant available, in case you prefer that one. It's under tools/vcprojects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I would like something to keep track of the hours spent on a map. It would have to not reset when changing the map name though. Can this be done easily enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I would like something to keep track of the hours spent on a map. It would have to not reset when changing the map name though. Can this be done easily enough?Heh, I already thought about such a feature long ago too. It can be done, but I doubt that it will be very meaningful. I don't know how often I left DarkRadiant just idling in the background while doing other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbWeaver Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Heh, I already thought about such a feature long ago too. It can be done, but I doubt that it will be very meaningful. I don't know how often I left DarkRadiant just idling in the background while doing other stuff. Yeah, let's not bloat the application with every idle gimmick we can think of -- if users want to do this, they can use a stopwatch and a notebook. Quote DarkRadiant homepage ⋄ DarkRadiant user guide ⋄ OrbWeaver's Dark Ambients ⋄ Blender export scripts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 a lot of us found it very useful in Dromed, not all of us leave stuff running. But it's no biggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Yeah, let's not bloat the application with every idle gimmick we can think of -- if users want to do this, they can use a stopwatch and a notebook. Since I want that feature, I will add it. Using a stopwatch and notebook is not practical at all. (and it is no problem to have the editor stop counting if there wasn't a userinput for some time..) Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Horizon Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 a lot of us found it very useful in Dromed, not all of us leave stuff running. But it's no biggie Yes, I remember dromed users posting the number of hours they had put into their maps. It may seem inconsequential, but I think for a lot of mappers it might be motivational to see if they improve the time they spend on certain tasks in DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Is it possible to have clip use the texture that is currently on the brush being clipped instead of the currently selected texture? If a brush had more than one texture applied, then clip could use the one that it more used, or default back to caulk maybe. But most brushes are a uniform texture. I keep forgetting to first select the brush's texture (mmb) before I do a clip, so I end up with a rock having a slice of wood on the side! I know I can set clip to use caulk, but that's just as bad, still have to go in and reset the texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Is it possible to have clip use the texture that is currently on the brush being clipped instead of the currently selected texture? If a brush had more than one texture applied, then clip could use the one that it more used, or default back to caulk maybe. But most brushes are a uniform texture. I keep forgetting to first select the brush's texture (mmb) before I do a clip, so I end up with a rock having a slice of wood on the side! I know I can set clip to use caulk, but that's just as bad, still have to go in and reset the texture.It's definitely possible to change the behaviour. We just need to think about something for brushes that are non-uniformly textured, i.e. two or more different shaders. What should DarkRadiant do in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 If a brush had more than one texture applied, then clip could use the one that it more used, or default back to caulk maybe. But most brushes are a uniform texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komag Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I'm in the habit of middle-clicking the brush itself before I clip it so that its texture is currently selected, but it would be nice not to have to. Should I open a bugtracker on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotha Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Recently, I've been decalling my map, and I noticed it is a very slow job. Could it be possible to get a special decal placer tool for DR? Some other editor I've used previously had this kind of feature (HL or FarCry, don't remember which). You selected a decal texture and simply clicked on a wall in the editor with a decal tool to get a decal placed on the wanted spot. Very convenient. Is it possible to write an automated process, which places a mesh of selected size and texture just on top of a clicked wall? The decal tool could have a box in which you could type the size of the new decal mesh, to get exactly the kind of decal you wanted, only with one click. Quote Clipper-The mapper's best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebo Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I'm in the habit of middle-clicking the brush itself before I clip it so that its texture is currently selected, but it would be nice not to have to. Should I open a bugtracker on this?Yes, please do. Recently, I've been decalling my map, and I noticed it is a very slow job. Could it be possible to get a special decal placer tool for DR? Some other editor I've used previously had this kind of feature (HL or FarCry, don't remember which). You selected a decal texture and simply clicked on a wall in the editor with a decal tool to get a decal placed on the wanted spot. Very convenient. Is it possible to write an automated process, which places a mesh of selected size and texture just on top of a clicked wall? The decal tool could have a box in which you could type the size of the new decal mesh, to get exactly the kind of decal you wanted, only with one click.Heh, I should've wished for such a feature myself, I usually place a lot of decals. Please add this to the Bugtracker too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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