Leaning? Forward Leaning?

[bob_arctor]

Why did I say it was a fast HUD bar? I meant simple. How odd. Yes a simple tiny bar moving between 4/5 settings.

 

Anyhow I don't see why everyone is so opposed to it.

 

What key would you bind as lean-forward and lean backward then? I'm saying using shift as a lean modifier would be good.

 

However that means there is not enough room for walk and sneak. How, we have a region of the keyboard which is very much in demand. We have a mousewheel that is less so, and eliminates the need to hold modifier keys with your little finger.

 

So I think it provides a more comfy elegant and intuitive way of changing speed that gives more control (more options of speed). Including maybe a speed which makes almost no sound but is really slow.

 

And what is the alternative? Making players tap w so their feet don't touch the ground like in TII? That surely shows there was a lack of control in player movement, that they we had to use that exploit.

 

So the expert player will learn which speeds to use to be silent to guards at varying distances and surfaces.

[sparhawk]

Nobody is holding you back to implement your own navigation scheme.

[mike mayday]

I'm not sure but has the idea of mouse controlled leaning and crouching been brought up?

So that for example, when you hold X, the mouse movement affects the angle of your lean, allowing precise backwards, forwards and sideways leaning, and when you hold Y, the mouse movement allows you to control the height of your crouch (also allowing standing on your toes).

[sparhawk]

Of course we already discussed it. One problem is, that we are kind of limited on the button assignments that we can use. Another one is, that we have a lot to code, and this is not really an essential feature.

[Denny]

There's also the part that it would be fun to be able to lean AND look around. :/

[sparhawk]

Yup!

[mike mayday]

Well, that's not a problem, just make the leaning angle stay the same after releasing the lean button.

True, then we'd need one more button for returning to the normal straight pose, but

a)we could use -for example- the jump button for that

b)that's still 3 buttons instead of six AND more intuitive and precise control over the body

 

Things are of course more problematic if you're limited on the button assignments, I don't know how that works.

Edited June 24, 2006 by mike mayday

[Vadrosaul]

You could implement a springback option for when using analog style leaning manipulation as an alternate.

[DopeFishhh]

I find the thief leaning to be adequate. Though you could implement something like the tds wall hug system as when you go to lean you usually are at the corner, so a button to hug the wall and then use the move keys to indicate direction.

 

Other games have had methods of tackling the way the player stands, in heavy gear 2 there were two buttons to change your operating height. One made you go lower and another heigher, but it was through fixed stages (stand, kneel, crawl).

[Dram]

...in heavy gear 2...

 

That game still stands in one of my top favourties

[ZylonBane]

Though you could implement something like the tds wall hug system

Oh gag. I'd much rather the game just automatically award a stealth bonus whenever the player is against a wall.

[Dram]

Oh gag. I'd much rather the game just automatically award a stealth bonus whenever the player is against a wall.

 

Apparently T1/2 did that. Only very slightly but did nonetheless. Or am I victim of bullshit rumours again?

[ZylonBane]

Not sure I've ever heard that rumor. Maybe some people thought that because in some situations the lighting makes it seem like that's what's happening.

[Elusive_Thief]

Apparently T1/2 did that. Only very slightly but did nonetheless. Or am I victim of bullshit rumours again?

 

 

LOL- Oh The Sarcasim!

[Komag]

I look through a prisim and have a spasim!

[SneaksieDave]

Look out, you might fall into a chasim.

 

I can't believe I've participitipitated in that.

[Dram]

LOL- Oh The Sarcasim!

wtf? lol, I was'nt being sarcastic.

[ZylonBane]

I'm not sure what he's on about either.

 

His grasp of the concept seems about as firm as his grasp of the spelling.

[Elusive_Thief]

I'm not sure what he's on about either.

 

His grasp of the concept seems about as firm as his grasp of the spelling.

 

Oh another one..... How many times must I see a negative idea attacker hit up a forum.... So I incorrectly spelled a word, kill me.

Edited July 25, 2006 by Elusive_Thief

[Maximius]

This entire thread has turned utterly ridiculiculous, I hope you are all deeply ashamalamadingdong of yourselves!

[ZylonBane]

"negative idea attacker"???

 

You have no chance to survive make your time.

 

Ha ha ha ha . . . .