Any Chances Of The This With The Darkmod....?

[Arumakani]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4789809.stm

 

Doom3 XBox version. Backwards compatability....etc.

[Crispy]

Ooh. That's interesting!

 

I doubt if the Dark Mod would be portable to it though.

[Arumakani]

Yeah that's what I thought. I was just wondering whether the tools used in the PC version could be used in an altered form to put up FM's etc?

[sparhawk]

Now that woul dbe a heavy blow to TDS. Well, 99USD is not so much. I payed as much for the licence of my game engine as well, but then again this engine is not resitrcted to XBox 360. Might be intereting to take a look at it.

[Arumakani]

You've developed your own game engine?

 

BTW, did you see the gameplay footage for Broken Sword 4 I posted today?

[Arumakani]

More detailed overview:

 

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1688/X...-the-Gamers/p1/

[sparhawk]

I sayed "I PAYED FOR IT". Do you think I would pay a licence if I had developed my own engine? Takes way to much time. I'm rather itnerested in making a game instead of making an engine.

[Arumakani]

I thought you patented or whatever your own engine licence

 

So you bought a game engine and are developing a game with it?

[Redface]

What engine, if I may ask ? And what game ?

[sparhawk]

I thought you patented or whatever your own engine licence

 

So you bought a game engine and are developing a game with it?

 

More or less. I bought it, and started to play around with it, but I haven't done much yet.

 

The engine is Beyond Virtual. http://www.beyondvirtual.com/

[Arumakani]

What type of game will it be? No details, but will it be adventure, stealth...?

[sparhawk]

Kind of strategic FPS. But the emphasis is not on the shooting, even though you may play it like this. If it works out, then you shouldn't get far just with shooting though.

[Arumakani]

Are FPS games your favourite genre?

[sparhawk]

Depends. Actually I like adventures and RPGs as well, but it depends on my mood what I like to play. Currently I'm replaying "Might And Magic 3".

[demagogue]

Sounds like a good idea, Spar.

It has to be said that the potential for FPSs has hardly been scratched, I think. More than any other genre I think it could really use some imagination and people taking it in new directions, especially in weening it off of mindless shooting as the main M.O.

[Arumakani]

My genre of choice is Adventure games with light roleplaying elements like Shenmue and Zelda. Stealth is probably second equal with RPG's. FPS aren't my cup of tea, except for Halo. Deus Ex is an exception too, though that was more like a FP RPG in many aspects.

[Schatten]

It has to be said that the potential for FPSs has hardly been scratched, I think. More than any other genre I think it could really use some imagination and people taking it in new directions, especially in weening it off of mindless shooting as the main M.O.

 

Very true. While I like the adrenaline rush click-fests like Starcraft can produce, there is much unused potential in the genre. I remember a RTS-ish game where you controlled a small team (sniper, spy, green beret,...) and your objective was to infiltrate some nazi camps. The AI had sight cones sweeping, and detection of one team member usually resulted in instant failure of the mission. That was more puzzle play than RTS though, but I enjoyed the fresh take on the genre.

 

Back in the day when I messed with QBasic (yay!), I wrote something RTS-ish which was a crossbreed between Lemmings and, uhm, Dune 2. Basically you could set up command chains on your critters in real time, and your objective was to gain and hold parts of the opponent's area. I didn't know how to code null-modem support in QBasic though, and writing an AI was a little too much for me then, so it never saw the light of the day. :/

 

 

EDIT: Hahaha, and the whole time I mixed up RTS and FPS. Sorry about that.

[demagogue]

Well, to be fair, most genres have a problem with mindless shooting fests and could use a little more imagination.

 

Also, it's not always clear what "strategic" means in the FPS context (so when you see the word, it's maybe forgiveable to misunderstand what's going on). Deus Ex claimed to allow players "strategic" choices in going through a scene, but I got the feeling by this they meant there was some flexibility between which weapon you'd rely on, big and loud or small and silent, or sometimes you could find a back way in or sneak through, or some areas had some "puzzle" to them to cross, etc, but IMO these really aren't so much "strategic" decisions as the word is used in most other game contexts like RTS, planning ahead and countering AI/other player strategies, and really making hard, on-the-fly cost/benefit sorts of decisions. This is another way that the potential in FPSs has barely been scratched, I think (mostly because of lackluster AI and again a failure of imagination).

Edited August 15, 2006 by demagogue

[Schatten]

Yeah, the same is true for many genres. When I first played DeusEx I thought "Finaly, the next step in evolution for the first person genre. Why has it taken so long?". Same goes for Thief before that. After a few years, I became very disappointed with the lack of change.

 

Ok, some blasphemy from me here: If by some great spacetime-hickup LG banded together again, I wouldn't want them to make another Thief game. I love stealth gameplay, and Thief will always have a special place in my heart. But Hitman and Splinter Cell for example left me bored - they didn't offer anything that the Thief games didn't have. I would want something new - the First Person Socializer or something.

 

Oh, on that note: The most interesting game concept I heard in a while is from a game called "Star Attorney" or something "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", in which you take the role of a lawyer and fight some surreal cases. Reviews make it look like imense fun, but the conecpt alone sounds like a giant bore on paper.

[Arumakani]

Schatten, I think you were talking about Commandos. Very good game, though could be anally difficult.

 

If you like planning ahead etc as you say, have you tried some of the Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six games? Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, the latest one, allows you to do a lot of planning ahead etc.

 

I know what you mean with Hitman and SC. I loved the first SC, and played both of the other 2, but found them too samey.

Edited August 15, 2006 by Arumakani

[Vadrosaul]

I hope none of you are criticizing Deus Ex, lest you be struck down from the heavens

[sparhawk]

Very true. While I like the adrenaline rush click-fests like Starcraft can produce, there is much unused potential in the genre. I remember a RTS-ish game where you controlled a small team (sniper, spy, green beret,...) and your objective was to infiltrate some nazi camps. The AI had sight cones sweeping, and detection of one team member usually resulted in instant failure of the mission. That was more puzzle play than RTS though, but I enjoyed the fresh take on the genre.

 

Do you mean "Commandos"? But only the fourht part was FPS. All the others were with a top down view.

[sparhawk]

Also, it's not always clear what "strategic" means in the FPS context (so when you see the word, it's maybe forgiveable to misunderstand what's going on).

 

Yeah. That's why I don't really like that term, because I know that most people will think more in the direction of "Operation Flashpoint" or similar.

[Dram]

Damn, that engine looks pretty impressive for such a small amount!

[Schatten]

Do you mean "Commandos"? But only the fourht part was FPS. All the others were with a top down view.

 

I constantly read "RTS" instead of "FPS" in this thread due to some short circuit in my brain, hence the confusion.