Jump to content
The Dark Mod Forums

Itches, Glitches & Anything Else...


Recommended Posts

I was having trouble loading a big map earlier and I thought it was because I only have 512Mb of RAM and had a few other programs running at the time including Doom 3! When Windows runs out of real physical memory it starts using a large disk file as virtual memory but this is really slow compared to RAM. Later I loaded the same map more quickly when I did not have other programs running. I'm thinking of getting more RAM. Could that be the same problem for you jdude?

 

The only other thing I can think of is build it in three or four parts as different maps and merge it later using prefabs but I don't know how robust or comprehensive those are.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is not the user's intention to change the shape so it is a fault. In Dromed the brush properties, coordinates, orientation, and dimensions are listed just like any object and the user could type in any acceptable value in any of them. That is another reason I was suggesting that brush properties be displayed in the entity inspector.

Snapping an off-grid object to the grid is equal to changing it - there's really no way around that. The brushes are defined by their face planes and these are the ones that get snapped. There's no way for DarkRadiant to know what shape the mapper wants the brush to be, neither makes the parameter "orientation" any sense for brushes.

 

@jdude: I know that the worldspawn entity can take quite long to load. It may be possible to display a brush counter, I'll have to look into that. Having lots of RAM is never a bad idea, you can't really have enough - in this case of map loading it won't help much though. Adding and managing the 4000 brushes just takes its time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Snapping an off-grid object to the grid is equal to changing it

That is why I was suggesting an additional non-grid snap - a snap to the nearest 90 degrees. But I see now that this would only work with rectangular blocks anyway if brushes are defined by their faces and not their shapes. So one face of a wedge might snap to 90 - but so would the opposite one! I give in on this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@jdude: I know that the worldspawn entity can take quite long to load. It may be possible to display a brush counter, I'll have to look into that. Having lots of RAM is never a bad idea, you can't really have enough - in this case of map loading it won't help much though. Adding and managing the 4000 brushes just takes its time.

 

Right now I have 1 gig but I hope to up that to 3 gigs soon of ddr2 ram. I know that it wouldn't be a necessity but I think it would be very benefitial to people with low ram trying to open large maps because windows loves to label programs which are busy as "not responding" but if a brush count was there it would be obvious it was loading.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So do mappers generally never snap to grid any brush that they have rotated?

 

I'm not exactly an experienced mapper, but in my view the clipper tool and edge manipulation are a lot more useful for producing angled surfaces than the rotate tool. I have never used the free rotate command in earnest, as far as I recall.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Where is that box Bob? You mean a box you can enter any angle? Can't seem to find it.

If you're using the snapshot release it may be that you have to assign a shortcut before you can open the Transformation Dialog. I forgot to add a menu item for this dialog (which is already fixed in SVN) - please search for "TransformDialog" in the shortcut editor.

 

So do mappers generally never snap to grid any brush that they have rotated?

It's of course always recommended to snap your fundamental geometry to the grid to avoid leaks. If you have a rotated brush, you might want to snap your brush the grid and manually edit the brush using the Edge manipulator. This way you can control the shape of your brush in detail and have the brush on the grid at the same time. Depending on the grid size and shape of your brush you'll might have to make compromises though. (Oh, and don't use the Vertex manipulation mode, it's really only useful for triangular prisms.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A new build is up on FTP (extract this over the GTK 2.10 build favourably, but it should work when copied over an existing 0.8.1 installation as well). It should resolve the issue with custom stims not being displayed the first time and the crash on shutdown.

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia..._latest_SVN.zip

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Confirmed. No crash on exit in two or three tests and the stim names are fine. :)

 

The s & r is basically there now and looking very good. I'll do some more testing when I get the next beta with s & r working as real testing in-game will highlight any glitches. But the interface looks pretty complete. (still think new names should just be typed in then Add or Enter to add but I won't quibble! ;) )

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice, thanks for testing! It will of course continue to be improved, but I'd really like to draw the line here to get DarkRadiant 0.9.0 ready for release. It will be very convenient to upgrade the S/R Editor as it's a single ~1 MB DLL (as long as no plugin interface changes are made).

 

OrbWeaver, I wonder if we should use the http://darkradiant.sourceforge.net/ website for these kind of things? It may be cleaner than to mess around with forum links and stickies, although it would be more work to maintain the website. A barebone easy-to-maintain website wouldn't be too much work, I could pull that off in half a day or so (if my HTML skills didn't get rusty in the last half year :D).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Apparently you should have this permission, it is called "Allow access to shell server group space (i.e. web space)" and is ticked for your account.

 

Don't ask me how to access the web space however, presumably there is some documentation on the SF pages.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok, I could find the according folder on the sourceforge webhost and upload the logo as a test.

 

I will try to come up with a small site in the evening hours, right now I'm off into our rehearsal room. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No, it's broken, I need to look into that before the release. There is also something screwy going on with the PropertyEditors on Windows if you right-click to bring up the Add Property dialog, causing some GTK warnings and a failure to delete the current Property Editor when you select another key. I will try to replicate this in Linux.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for restoring the maximize on camview etc. in v.9. I find it handy to double click it big and small.

 

Been meaning to mention but kept forgetting, the grid horizontal coordinate digits corrupt together and are too high on my setup. The side corruption may be my desktop dpi setting I can't tell. That is, it might simply be that every value is running over into the next one. Can they be spaced out more? The vertical thing is the top half is off the top of the window. A screenie HERE

 

Hold on, I see as I zoom in that they space out more so maybe it is sufficient if they are just lowered a half character height?

 

One more thing, can you confirm that the Dark Radiant grid units really are doom units?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Been meaning to mention but kept forgetting, the grid horizontal coordinate digits corrupt together and are too high on my setup. The side corruption may be my desktop dpi setting I can't tell. That is, it might simply be that every value is running over into the next one. Can they be spaced out more? The vertical thing is the top half is off the top of the window. A screenie HERE

These are really huge values you have there on the grid, I guess the grid spacing was not designed to handle these large values sufficiently. I'll have to look at the code and see if I can easily do something about it. The lowering about half a character height should be easy to do.

 

One more thing, can you confirm that the Dark Radiant grid units really are doom units?

Yes, I haven't heard anything contradictory.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recent Status Updates

    • nbohr1more

      TDM 15th Anniversary Contest is now active! Please declare your participation: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22413-the-dark-mod-15th-anniversary-contest-entry-thread/
       
      · 0 replies
    • JackFarmer

      @TheUnbeholden
      You cannot receive PMs. Could you please be so kind and check your mailbox if it is full (or maybe you switched off the function)?
      · 1 reply
    • OrbWeaver

      I like the new frob highlight but it would nice if it was less "flickery" while moving over objects (especially barred metal doors).
      · 4 replies
    • nbohr1more

      Please vote in the 15th Anniversary Contest Theme Poll
       
      · 0 replies
    • Ansome

      Well then, it's been about a week since I released my first FM and I must say that I was very pleasantly surprised by its reception. I had expected half as much interest in my short little FM as I received and even less when it came to positive feedback, but I am glad that the aspects of my mission that I put the most heart into were often the most appreciated. It was also delightful to read plenty of honest criticism and helpful feedback, as I've already been given plenty of useful pointers on improving my brushwork, level design, and gameplay difficulty.
      I've gotten back into the groove of chipping away at my reading and game list, as well as the endless FM catalogue here, but I may very well try my hand at the 15th anniversary contest should it materialize. That is assuming my eyes are ready for a few more months of Dark Radiant's bright interface while burning the midnight oil, of course!
      · 4 replies
×
×
  • Create New...