Is anyone else using Vista?

[SneaksieDave 39]

I believe that (Vista ready VMWare) is in beta at this time. There was mention of this at work. Could you imagine though, a vista VM? MOLASSES BLOAT!

 

I disagree with the 'self-builders going with Vista' notion. Vista is by and large being shunned by the community, or are we not reading the same news and trends (and even admissions from MS)? Those on the technical side of things certainly aren't more interested in a DRM locked-down bloated OS, regardless of whatever it may have gotten right this time around.

[Subjective Effect 22]

What community? Gamers? They'll change eventually. Remember how no-one wanted XP back in the day? Vista is here to stay and from my pov that's a good thing because IIIIIIII like it!

[New Horizon 481]

I actually didn't mind xp back in the day, I thought it was a pretty decent OS...but I preferred Server 2003 once I tried it. I really hate how some companies will lock their applications and refuse to let you install if it detects a server 2003 OS. It's so pointless, I circumvent all their crap and what do I find? The apps run better on Server 2003 than my XP installation. Go figure.

 

Yeah, SE...Vista is likely pretty stable since it's built on the Server 2003 code base...I just can't stand all the bloatware attached to it. When an app is released to strip it down, like with XP/2000 Lite...I might give it a chance.

[Subjective Effect 22]

Oh, a lite version would certainly be preferable as the overheads are big big big.

 

But cross OS compatibility of DR and TDM is absolutely essential.

 

PS. I got 2 keys in Thiefs_Den. How do I get out the back door?

[OrbWeaver 509]

Even if Vista runs in VMWare, I'm pretty sure OpenGL applications won't.

[greebo 29]

@Subjective Effect: I have a snapshot for you. Please extract these files over an existing installation (0.9.4) and start darkradiant.exe from the command line, so that the debug output gets printed to the console.

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_1.zip

 

Please post back here what DR manages to print before crashing.

[Subjective Effect 22]

K. I'll be a while as I've just uninstalled Doom3!

[greebo 29]

Doesn't matter. DarkRadiant should be able to start without Doom 3 - it will probably crash before it has the chance to check for game resources anyway.

[Subjective Effect 22]

Ok. Is this what you want?

 

crt_init()
streams_init()
module::ModuleRegistry::Instance().initi
aliseContext(argc, argv)
gtk_disable_setlocale()
gtk_init()
GlobalDebugMessageHandler::instance().se
tHandler()
ui::Splash::Instance().show()
module::RegistryReference::Instance().se
tRegistry()
ui::Splash::Instance().setProgressAndTex
t()
module::getRegistry().getApplicationCont
ext()
module::getRegistry().initialiseModules(
)
[filters] Loaded 15 filters from registry.

 

I can get this without running from the a command line btw.

[greebo 29]

Ah, yes, this is what I wanted. Ok, so it seems GTK is initialised and DR crashes during module initialisation. I'll prepare another build with more debug output. Stay tuned.

[greebo 29]

Ok, here's the next snapshot.

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_2.zip

[OrbWeaver 509]

I wonder if this is something to do with the module interface (linkage issues etc) on Vista. At what point did the new module system go in?

[greebo 29]

I wonder if this is something to do with the module interface (linkage issues etc) on Vista. At what point did the new module system go in?

It was implemented in 0.9.3, so this might be a clue. In the above snapshot, I forgot to add debug outputs before the std::logic_error exceptions, so this provides another option to make things clearer. Let's see what the current debug output says.

[Subjective Effect 22]

Output from Debug 2. It's much bigger!

crt_init()
streams_init()
module::ModuleRegistry::Instance().initi
aliseContext(argc, argv)
gtk_disable_setlocale()
gtk_init()
GlobalDebugMessageHandler::instance().se
tHandler()
ui::Splash::Instance().show()
module::RegistryReference::Instance().se
tRegistry()
ui::Splash::Instance().setProgressAndTex
t()
module::getRegistry().getApplicationCont
ext()
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/archivezip.dll'
Module registered: ArchivePK4
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eclassmgr.dll'
Module registered: EntityClassManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entity.dll'
Module registered: Doom3EntityCreator
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entitylist.dll'
Module registered: EntityList
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eventmanager.dll'
Module registered: EventManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filetypes.dll'
Module registered: FileTypes
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filters.dll'
Module registered: FilterSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/grid.dll'
Module registered: Grid
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/image.dll'
Module registered: ImageLoaderTGA
Module registered: ImageLoaderJPG
Module registered: ImageLoaderPCX
Module registered: ImageLoaderBMP
Module registered: ImageLoaderDDS
Module registered: ImageLoaderGDK
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/mapdoom3.dll'
Module registered: Doom3MapLoader
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/md5model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD5MESH
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD3
Module registered: ModelLoader3DS
Module registered: ModelLoaderASE
Module registered: ModelLoaderMS3D
Module registered: ModelLoaderMDC
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD2
Module registered: ModelLoaderFM
Module registered: ModelLoaderLWO
Module registered: ModelLoaderPICOTERRAIN
Module registered: ModelLoaderOBJ
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/particles.dll'
Module registered: ParticlesManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/scenegraph.dll'
Module registered: SceneGraph
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/shaders.dll'
Module registered: ShaderSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/skins.dll'
Module registered: ModelSkinCache
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/sound.dll'
Module registered: SoundManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/uimanager.dll'
Module registered: UIManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/undo.dll'
Module registered: UndoSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/vfspk3.dll'
Module registered: VirtualFileSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/xmlregistry.dll'
Module registered: XMLRegistry
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_d3hook.dll'
Module registered: Doom3Hook
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_objectives.dll'
Module registered: ObjectivesEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_stimresponse.dll'
Module registered: StimResponseEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/eclasstree.dll'
Module registered: EClassTree
module::getRegistry().initialiseModules(
)
Initialising module: ArchivePK4
=> Module ArchivePK4 entering intialisation.
ArchivePK4::initialiseModule called
=> Module ArchivePK4 initialised.
Initialising module: Camera
Initialising module: EventManager
Initialising module: Radiant
Initialising module: Clipper
Initialising module: PreferenceSystem
=> Module PreferenceSystem entering intialisation.
PreferenceSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module PreferenceSystem initialised.
Initialising module: XMLRegistry
=> Module XMLRegistry entering intialisation.
XMLRegistry::initialiseModule called
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/user.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/colours.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/input.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/menu.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/us
er.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/in
put.xml
=> Module XMLRegistry initialised.
=> Module Clipper entering intialisation.
Clipper::initialiseModule called
=> Module Clipper initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3BrushCreator
Initialising module: FilterSystem
Initialising module: GameManager
Initialising module: VirtualFileSystem
=> Module VirtualFileSystem entering intialisation.
VFS::initialiseModule called
=> Module VirtualFileSystem initialised.
=> Module GameManager entering intialisation.
GameManager::initialiseModule called.
GameManager: Scanning for game description files: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/doom3.game
GameManager: Found game definitions: doom3
GameManager: Selected game type: doom3
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/thiefs_den.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/darkmod.pk4
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/base/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak008.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak007.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak006.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game03.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game02.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4
GameManager: Map path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/maps/
GameManager: Prefab path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/prefabs/
=> Module GameManager initialised.
Initialising module: SceneGraph
=> Module SceneGraph entering intialisation.
SceneGraph::initialiseModule called
=> Module SceneGraph initialised.
=> Module FilterSystem entering intialisation.
[filters] Loaded 15 filters from registry.
=> Module FilterSystem initialised.
Initialising module: OpenGL
=> Module OpenGL entering intialisation.
OpenGL::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGL initialised.
Initialising module: SelectionSystem
Initialising module: Grid
=> Module Grid entering intialisation.
GridManager::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Grid initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderCache
Initialising module: OpenGLStateLibrary
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary entering intialisation.
OpenGLStateLibrary::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderSystem
=> Module ShaderSystem entering intialisation.
Doom3ShaderSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module ShaderSystem initialised.
=> Module ShaderCache entering intialisation.
ShaderCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ShaderCache initialised.
=> Module SelectionSystem entering intialisation.
RadiantSelectionSystem::initialiseModule called.
=> Module SelectionSystem initialised.
Initialising module: UndoSystem
=> Module UndoSystem entering intialisation.
UndoSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module UndoSystem initialised.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator entering intialisation.
BrushModuleClass::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3EntityCreator
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator entering intialisation.
Doom3EntityCreator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3MapLoader
Initialising module: EntityClassManager
=> Module EntityClassManager entering intialisation.
EntityClassDoom3::initialiseModule called.
=> Module EntityClassManager initialised.
Initialising module: FileTypes
=> Module FileTypes entering intialisation.
FileTypeRegistry::initialiseModule called.
=> Module FileTypes initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef2
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef2Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef3
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef3Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 initialised.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader entering intialisation.
MapDoom3API::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderDDS
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderDDS::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderJPG
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderJPG::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderTGA
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderTGA::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA initialised.
Initialising module: Namespace
=> Module Namespace entering intialisation.
Namespace::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Namespace initialised.
Initialising module: ParticlesManager
=> Module ParticlesManager entering intialisation.
ParticlesManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module ParticlesManager initialised.
Initialising module: ReferenceCache
=> Module ReferenceCache entering intialisation.
ReferenceCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ReferenceCache initialised.
Initialising module: SoundManager
=> Module SoundManager entering intialisation.
SoundManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module SoundManager initialised.
Initialising module: UIManager
=> Module UIManager entering intialisation.
UIManager::initialiseModule called
Found toolbar: view
Found toolbar: edit
Found toolbar: texture
Found toolbar: textool
MenuManager: Finished loading default menu from registry.
=> Module UIManager initialised.
=> Module Radiant entering intialisation.
RadiantAPI::initialiseModule called.
default screen has 1 monitors
monitor 0 geometry: 0, 0, 1680, 1050

[greebo 29]

Aha, the Radiant core module causes the crash, here's the next one:

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_3.zip

 

This package only contains the EXE, everything else is unchanged.

[Subjective Effect 22]

Output from Debug 3. Even bigger!

 

crt_init()
streams_init()
module::ModuleRegistry::Instance().initi
aliseContext(argc, argv)
gtk_disable_setlocale()
gtk_init()
GlobalDebugMessageHandler::instance().se
tHandler()
ui::Splash::Instance().show()
module::RegistryReference::Instance().se
tRegistry()
ui::Splash::Instance().setProgressAndTex
t()
module::getRegistry().getApplicationCont
ext()
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/archivezip.dll'
Module registered: ArchivePK4
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eclassmgr.dll'
Module registered: EntityClassManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entity.dll'
Module registered: Doom3EntityCreator
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entitylist.dll'
Module registered: EntityList
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eventmanager.dll'
Module registered: EventManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filetypes.dll'
Module registered: FileTypes
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filters.dll'
Module registered: FilterSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/grid.dll'
Module registered: Grid
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/image.dll'
Module registered: ImageLoaderTGA
Module registered: ImageLoaderJPG
Module registered: ImageLoaderPCX
Module registered: ImageLoaderBMP
Module registered: ImageLoaderDDS
Module registered: ImageLoaderGDK
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/mapdoom3.dll'
Module registered: Doom3MapLoader
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/md5model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD5MESH
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD3
Module registered: ModelLoader3DS
Module registered: ModelLoaderASE
Module registered: ModelLoaderMS3D
Module registered: ModelLoaderMDC
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD2
Module registered: ModelLoaderFM
Module registered: ModelLoaderLWO
Module registered: ModelLoaderPICOTERRAIN
Module registered: ModelLoaderOBJ
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/particles.dll'
Module registered: ParticlesManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/scenegraph.dll'
Module registered: SceneGraph
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/shaders.dll'
Module registered: ShaderSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/skins.dll'
Module registered: ModelSkinCache
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/sound.dll'
Module registered: SoundManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/uimanager.dll'
Module registered: UIManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/undo.dll'
Module registered: UndoSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/vfspk3.dll'
Module registered: VirtualFileSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/xmlregistry.dll'
Module registered: XMLRegistry
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_d3hook.dll'
Module registered: Doom3Hook
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_objectives.dll'
Module registered: ObjectivesEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_stimresponse.dll'
Module registered: StimResponseEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/eclasstree.dll'
Module registered: EClassTree
module::getRegistry().initialiseModules(
)
Initialising module: ArchivePK4
=> Module ArchivePK4 entering intialisation.
ArchivePK4::initialiseModule called
=> Module ArchivePK4 initialised.
Initialising module: Camera
Initialising module: EventManager
Initialising module: Radiant
Initialising module: Clipper
Initialising module: PreferenceSystem
=> Module PreferenceSystem entering intialisation.
PreferenceSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module PreferenceSystem initialised.
Initialising module: XMLRegistry
=> Module XMLRegistry entering intialisation.
XMLRegistry::initialiseModule called
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/user.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/colours.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/input.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/menu.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/us
er.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/in
put.xml
=> Module XMLRegistry initialised.
=> Module Clipper entering intialisation.
Clipper::initialiseModule called
=> Module Clipper initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3BrushCreator
Initialising module: FilterSystem
Initialising module: GameManager
Initialising module: VirtualFileSystem
=> Module VirtualFileSystem entering intialisation.
VFS::initialiseModule called
=> Module VirtualFileSystem initialised.
=> Module GameManager entering intialisation.
GameManager::initialiseModule called.
GameManager: Scanning for game description files: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/doom3.game
GameManager: Found game definitions: doom3
GameManager: Selected game type: doom3
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/thiefs_den.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/darkmod.pk4
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/base/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak008.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak007.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak006.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game03.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game02.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4
GameManager: Map path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/maps/
GameManager: Prefab path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/prefabs/
=> Module GameManager initialised.
Initialising module: SceneGraph
=> Module SceneGraph entering intialisation.
SceneGraph::initialiseModule called
=> Module SceneGraph initialised.
=> Module FilterSystem entering intialisation.
[filters] Loaded 15 filters from registry.
=> Module FilterSystem initialised.
Initialising module: OpenGL
=> Module OpenGL entering intialisation.
OpenGL::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGL initialised.
Initialising module: SelectionSystem
Initialising module: Grid
=> Module Grid entering intialisation.
GridManager::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Grid initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderCache
Initialising module: OpenGLStateLibrary
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary entering intialisation.
OpenGLStateLibrary::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderSystem
=> Module ShaderSystem entering intialisation.
Doom3ShaderSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module ShaderSystem initialised.
=> Module ShaderCache entering intialisation.
ShaderCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ShaderCache initialised.
=> Module SelectionSystem entering intialisation.
RadiantSelectionSystem::initialiseModule called.
=> Module SelectionSystem initialised.
Initialising module: UndoSystem
=> Module UndoSystem entering intialisation.
UndoSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module UndoSystem initialised.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator entering intialisation.
BrushModuleClass::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3EntityCreator
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator entering intialisation.
Doom3EntityCreator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3MapLoader
Initialising module: EntityClassManager
=> Module EntityClassManager entering intialisation.
EntityClassDoom3::initialiseModule called.
=> Module EntityClassManager initialised.
Initialising module: FileTypes
=> Module FileTypes entering intialisation.
FileTypeRegistry::initialiseModule called.
=> Module FileTypes initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef2
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef2Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef3
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef3Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 initialised.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader entering intialisation.
MapDoom3API::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderDDS
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderDDS::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderJPG
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderJPG::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderTGA
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderTGA::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA initialised.
Initialising module: Namespace
=> Module Namespace entering intialisation.
Namespace::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Namespace initialised.
Initialising module: ParticlesManager
=> Module ParticlesManager entering intialisation.
ParticlesManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module ParticlesManager initialised.
Initialising module: ReferenceCache
=> Module ReferenceCache entering intialisation.
ReferenceCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ReferenceCache initialised.
Initialising module: SoundManager
=> Module SoundManager entering intialisation.
SoundManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module SoundManager initialised.
Initialising module: UIManager
=> Module UIManager entering intialisation.
UIManager::initialiseModule called
Found toolbar: view
Found toolbar: edit
Found toolbar: texture
Found toolbar: textool
MenuManager: Finished loading default menu from registry.
=> Module UIManager initialised.
=> Module Radiant entering intialisation.
RadiantAPI::initialiseModule called.
RadiantCoreAPI: Selection_construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MultiMon_Construct()
default screen has 1 monitors
monitor 0 geometry: 0, 0, 1680, 1050
RadiantCoreAPI: map::PointFile::Instance().registerComma
nds()
RadiantCoreAPI: Map_Construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MainFrame_Construct()

 

Shouldn't oDDity also test this to see if we get the same thing? He's running a 64bit version of Vista, whilst I'm running it at 32bit.

[greebo 29]

Let's try this one (again a standalone EXE):

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_4.zip

[oDDity 3]

That doesn't make any difference. Vista 64 runs any 32 bit app anyway. You only need a 64 bit version if you wanted it to be able to use more than 2 gig of ram.

[Subjective Effect 22]

Even so - there might be differences in the output due to other confounding factors and we should know what differences/similarities there are, no?

 

Output from Debug 4,

 

crt_init()
streams_init()
module::ModuleRegistry::Instance().initi
aliseContext(argc, argv)
gtk_disable_setlocale()
gtk_init()
GlobalDebugMessageHandler::instance().se
tHandler()
ui::Splash::Instance().show()
module::RegistryReference::Instance().se
tRegistry()
ui::Splash::Instance().setProgressAndTex
t()
module::getRegistry().getApplicationCont
ext()
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/archivezip.dll'
Module registered: ArchivePK4
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eclassmgr.dll'
Module registered: EntityClassManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entity.dll'
Module registered: Doom3EntityCreator
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entitylist.dll'
Module registered: EntityList
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eventmanager.dll'
Module registered: EventManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filetypes.dll'
Module registered: FileTypes
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filters.dll'
Module registered: FilterSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/grid.dll'
Module registered: Grid
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/image.dll'
Module registered: ImageLoaderTGA
Module registered: ImageLoaderJPG
Module registered: ImageLoaderPCX
Module registered: ImageLoaderBMP
Module registered: ImageLoaderDDS
Module registered: ImageLoaderGDK
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/mapdoom3.dll'
Module registered: Doom3MapLoader
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/md5model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD5MESH
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD3
Module registered: ModelLoader3DS
Module registered: ModelLoaderASE
Module registered: ModelLoaderMS3D
Module registered: ModelLoaderMDC
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD2
Module registered: ModelLoaderFM
Module registered: ModelLoaderLWO
Module registered: ModelLoaderPICOTERRAIN
Module registered: ModelLoaderOBJ
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/particles.dll'
Module registered: ParticlesManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/scenegraph.dll'
Module registered: SceneGraph
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/shaders.dll'
Module registered: ShaderSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/skins.dll'
Module registered: ModelSkinCache
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/sound.dll'
Module registered: SoundManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/uimanager.dll'
Module registered: UIManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/undo.dll'
Module registered: UndoSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/vfspk3.dll'
Module registered: VirtualFileSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/xmlregistry.dll'
Module registered: XMLRegistry
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_d3hook.dll'
Module registered: Doom3Hook
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_objectives.dll'
Module registered: ObjectivesEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_stimresponse.dll'
Module registered: StimResponseEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/eclasstree.dll'
Module registered: EClassTree
module::getRegistry().initialiseModules(
)
Initialising module: ArchivePK4
=> Module ArchivePK4 entering intialisation.
ArchivePK4::initialiseModule called
=> Module ArchivePK4 initialised.
Initialising module: Camera
Initialising module: EventManager
Initialising module: Radiant
Initialising module: Clipper
Initialising module: PreferenceSystem
=> Module PreferenceSystem entering intialisation.
PreferenceSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module PreferenceSystem initialised.
Initialising module: XMLRegistry
=> Module XMLRegistry entering intialisation.
XMLRegistry::initialiseModule called
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/user.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/colours.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/input.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/menu.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/us
er.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/in
put.xml
=> Module XMLRegistry initialised.
=> Module Clipper entering intialisation.
Clipper::initialiseModule called
=> Module Clipper initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3BrushCreator
Initialising module: FilterSystem
Initialising module: GameManager
Initialising module: VirtualFileSystem
=> Module VirtualFileSystem entering intialisation.
VFS::initialiseModule called
=> Module VirtualFileSystem initialised.
=> Module GameManager entering intialisation.
GameManager::initialiseModule called.
GameManager: Scanning for game description files: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/doom3.game
GameManager: Found game definitions: doom3
GameManager: Selected game type: doom3
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/thiefs_den.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/darkmod.pk4
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/base/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak008.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak007.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak006.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game03.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game02.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4
GameManager: Map path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/maps/
GameManager: Prefab path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/prefabs/
=> Module GameManager initialised.
Initialising module: SceneGraph
=> Module SceneGraph entering intialisation.
SceneGraph::initialiseModule called
=> Module SceneGraph initialised.
=> Module FilterSystem entering intialisation.
[filters] Loaded 15 filters from registry.
=> Module FilterSystem initialised.
Initialising module: OpenGL
=> Module OpenGL entering intialisation.
OpenGL::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGL initialised.
Initialising module: SelectionSystem
Initialising module: Grid
=> Module Grid entering intialisation.
GridManager::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Grid initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderCache
Initialising module: OpenGLStateLibrary
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary entering intialisation.
OpenGLStateLibrary::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderSystem
=> Module ShaderSystem entering intialisation.
Doom3ShaderSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module ShaderSystem initialised.
=> Module ShaderCache entering intialisation.
ShaderCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ShaderCache initialised.
=> Module SelectionSystem entering intialisation.
RadiantSelectionSystem::initialiseModule called.
=> Module SelectionSystem initialised.
Initialising module: UndoSystem
=> Module UndoSystem entering intialisation.
UndoSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module UndoSystem initialised.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator entering intialisation.
BrushModuleClass::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3EntityCreator
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator entering intialisation.
Doom3EntityCreator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3MapLoader
Initialising module: EntityClassManager
=> Module EntityClassManager entering intialisation.
EntityClassDoom3::initialiseModule called.
=> Module EntityClassManager initialised.
Initialising module: FileTypes
=> Module FileTypes entering intialisation.
FileTypeRegistry::initialiseModule called.
=> Module FileTypes initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef2
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef2Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef3
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef3Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 initialised.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader entering intialisation.
MapDoom3API::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderDDS
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderDDS::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderJPG
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderJPG::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderTGA
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderTGA::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA initialised.
Initialising module: Namespace
=> Module Namespace entering intialisation.
Namespace::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Namespace initialised.
Initialising module: ParticlesManager
=> Module ParticlesManager entering intialisation.
ParticlesManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module ParticlesManager initialised.
Initialising module: ReferenceCache
=> Module ReferenceCache entering intialisation.
ReferenceCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ReferenceCache initialised.
Initialising module: SoundManager
=> Module SoundManager entering intialisation.
SoundManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module SoundManager initialised.
Initialising module: UIManager
=> Module UIManager entering intialisation.
UIManager::initialiseModule called
Found toolbar: view
Found toolbar: edit
Found toolbar: texture
Found toolbar: textool
MenuManager: Finished loading default menu from registry.
=> Module UIManager initialised.
=> Module Radiant entering intialisation.
RadiantAPI::initialiseModule called.
RadiantCoreAPI: Selection_construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MultiMon_Construct()
default screen has 1 monitors
monitor 0 geometry: 0, 0, 1680, 1050
RadiantCoreAPI: map::PointFile::Instance().registerComma
nds()
RadiantCoreAPI: Map_Construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MainFrame_Construct()
Registering commands...1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

 

Got to go now. I'll be back in a few hours.

[greebo 29]

Thanks so far. Here's another one, I suspect it's within GlobalEventManager().addRegistryToggle() but I'm not sure what exactly should cause the crash. This is a full snapshot again:

 

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_5.zip

[Tels 268]

Even if Vista runs in VMWare, I'm pretty sure OpenGL applications won't.

 

http://communities.vmware.com/message/365653

[OrbWeaver 509]

http://communities.vmware.com/message/365653

 

Yes, that's what I suspected. Only for Direct3D, not fully functional, and only available in Workstation (not Server which is available for free).

[Tels 268]

Yes, that's what I suspected. Only for Direct3D, not fully functional, and only available in Workstation (not Server which is available for free).

 

I have long given up understanding VMWare's product lineup - it is more complicated than the taxonomy of butterflies and changes more often than my underwear

 

As for OpenGL, is DR able to run (or at least start) without it at all?

[Subjective Effect 22]

Output from Debug 5. I hope this is getting to the bottom of things.

 

crt_init()
streams_init()
module::ModuleRegistry::Instance().initi
aliseContext(argc, argv)
gtk_disable_setlocale()
gtk_init()
GlobalDebugMessageHandler::instance().se
tHandler()
ui::Splash::Instance().show()
module::RegistryReference::Instance().se
tRegistry()
ui::Splash::Instance().setProgressAndTex
t()
module::getRegistry().getApplicationCont
ext()
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/archivezip.dll'
Module registered: ArchivePK4
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eclassmgr.dll'
Module registered: EntityClassManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entity.dll'
Module registered: Doom3EntityCreator
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/entitylist.dll'
Module registered: EntityList
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/eventmanager.dll'
Module registered: EventManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filetypes.dll'
Module registered: FileTypes
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/filters.dll'
Module registered: FilterSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/grid.dll'
Module registered: Grid
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/image.dll'
Module registered: ImageLoaderTGA
Module registered: ImageLoaderJPG
Module registered: ImageLoaderPCX
Module registered: ImageLoaderBMP
Module registered: ImageLoaderDDS
Module registered: ImageLoaderGDK
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/mapdoom3.dll'
Module registered: Doom3MapLoader
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/md5model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD5MESH
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/model.dll'
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD3
Module registered: ModelLoader3DS
Module registered: ModelLoaderASE
Module registered: ModelLoaderMS3D
Module registered: ModelLoaderMDC
Module registered: ModelLoaderMD2
Module registered: ModelLoaderFM
Module registered: ModelLoaderLWO
Module registered: ModelLoaderPICOTERRAIN
Module registered: ModelLoaderOBJ
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/particles.dll'
Module registered: ParticlesManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/scenegraph.dll'
Module registered: SceneGraph
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/shaders.dll'
Module registered: ShaderSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/skins.dll'
Module registered: ModelSkinCache
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/sound.dll'
Module registered: SoundManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/uimanager.dll'
Module registered: UIManager
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/undo.dll'
Module registered: UndoSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/vfspk3.dll'
Module registered: VirtualFileSystem
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/modules/xmlregistry.dll'
Module registered: XMLRegistry
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_d3hook.dll'
Module registered: Doom3Hook
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_objectives.dll'
Module registered: ObjectivesEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/dm_stimresponse.dll'
Module registered: StimResponseEditor
ModuleLoader: Loading module 'C:/games/DarkRadiant/plugins/eclasstree.dll'
Module registered: EClassTree
module::getRegistry().initialiseModules(
)
Initialising module: ArchivePK4
=> Module ArchivePK4 entering intialisation.
ArchivePK4::initialiseModule called
=> Module ArchivePK4 initialised.
Initialising module: Camera
Initialising module: EventManager
Initialising module: Radiant
Initialising module: Clipper
Initialising module: PreferenceSystem
=> Module PreferenceSystem entering intialisation.
PreferenceSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module PreferenceSystem initialised.
Initialising module: XMLRegistry
=> Module XMLRegistry entering intialisation.
XMLRegistry::initialiseModule called
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/user.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/colours.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/input.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/menu.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/us
er.xml
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:\Users\Master\AppData\Roaming\DarkRadiant\/in
put.xml
=> Module XMLRegistry initialised.
=> Module Clipper entering intialisation.
Clipper::initialiseModule called
=> Module Clipper initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3BrushCreator
Initialising module: FilterSystem
Initialising module: GameManager
Initialising module: VirtualFileSystem
=> Module VirtualFileSystem entering intialisation.
VFS::initialiseModule called
=> Module VirtualFileSystem initialised.
=> Module GameManager entering intialisation.
GameManager::initialiseModule called.
GameManager: Scanning for game description files: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/
XMLRegistry: Importing XML file: C:/games/DarkRadiant/games/doom3.game
GameManager: Found game definitions: doom3
GameManager: Selected game type: doom3
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/thiefs_den.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/darkmod/darkmod.pk4
vfs directory: C:/games/doom3/base/
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak008.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak007.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/pak006.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game03.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game02.pk4
 pak file: C:/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4
GameManager: Map path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/maps/
GameManager: Prefab path set to C:/games/doom3/darkmod/prefabs/
=> Module GameManager initialised.
Initialising module: SceneGraph
=> Module SceneGraph entering intialisation.
SceneGraph::initialiseModule called
=> Module SceneGraph initialised.
=> Module FilterSystem entering intialisation.
[filters] Loaded 15 filters from registry.
=> Module FilterSystem initialised.
Initialising module: OpenGL
=> Module OpenGL entering intialisation.
OpenGL::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGL initialised.
Initialising module: SelectionSystem
Initialising module: Grid
=> Module Grid entering intialisation.
GridManager::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Grid initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderCache
Initialising module: OpenGLStateLibrary
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary entering intialisation.
OpenGLStateLibrary::initialiseModule called.
=> Module OpenGLStateLibrary initialised.
Initialising module: ShaderSystem
=> Module ShaderSystem entering intialisation.
Doom3ShaderSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module ShaderSystem initialised.
=> Module ShaderCache entering intialisation.
ShaderCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ShaderCache initialised.
=> Module SelectionSystem entering intialisation.
RadiantSelectionSystem::initialiseModule called.
=> Module SelectionSystem initialised.
Initialising module: UndoSystem
=> Module UndoSystem entering intialisation.
UndoSystem::initialiseModule called
=> Module UndoSystem initialised.
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator entering intialisation.
BrushModuleClass::initialiseModule called.

EventManager: addRegistryToggle called with TogTexLock (user/ui/brush/textureLoc
k)
Instantiating RegistryToggle
RegistryToggle constructor entered.
adding Keyobserver.
done.
returning
=> Module Doom3BrushCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3EntityCreator
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator entering intialisation.
Doom3EntityCreator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3EntityCreator initialised.
Initialising module: Doom3MapLoader
Initialising module: EntityClassManager
=> Module EntityClassManager entering intialisation.
EntityClassDoom3::initialiseModule called.
=> Module EntityClassManager initialised.
Initialising module: FileTypes
=> Module FileTypes entering intialisation.
FileTypeRegistry::initialiseModule called.
=> Module FileTypes initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef2
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef2Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef2 initialised.
Initialising module: PatchModuleDef3
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 entering intialisation.
Doom3PatchDef3Creator::initialiseModule called.
=> Module PatchModuleDef3 initialised.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader entering intialisation.
MapDoom3API::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Doom3MapLoader initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderDDS
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderDDS::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderDDS initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderJPG
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderJPG::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderJPG initialised.
Initialising module: ImageLoaderTGA
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA entering intialisation.
ImageLoaderTGA::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ImageLoaderTGA initialised.
Initialising module: Namespace
=> Module Namespace entering intialisation.
Namespace::initialiseModule called.
=> Module Namespace initialised.
Initialising module: ParticlesManager
=> Module ParticlesManager entering intialisation.
ParticlesManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module ParticlesManager initialised.
Initialising module: ReferenceCache
=> Module ReferenceCache entering intialisation.
ReferenceCache::initialiseModule called.
=> Module ReferenceCache initialised.
Initialising module: SoundManager
=> Module SoundManager entering intialisation.
SoundManager::initialiseModule called
=> Module SoundManager initialised.
Initialising module: UIManager
=> Module UIManager entering intialisation.
UIManager::initialiseModule called
Found toolbar: view
Found toolbar: edit
Found toolbar: texture
Found toolbar: textool
MenuManager: Finished loading default menu from registry.
=> Module UIManager initialised.
=> Module Radiant entering intialisation.
RadiantAPI::initialiseModule called.
RadiantCoreAPI: Selection_construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MultiMon_Construct()
default screen has 1 monitors
monitor 0 geometry: 0, 0, 1680, 1050
RadiantCoreAPI: map::PointFile::Instance().registerComma
nds()
RadiantCoreAPI: Map_Construct()
RadiantCoreAPI: MainFrame_Construct()
Registering commands...1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (adding RegistryToggle)
EventManager: addRegistryToggle called with ToggleShowSizeInfo (user/ui/xyview/s
howSizeInfo)
Instantiating RegistryToggle
RegistryToggle constructor entered.
adding Keyobserver.
done.
returning

a (adding RegistryToggle)
EventManager: addRegistryToggle called with ToggleShowAllLightRadii (user/ui/sho
wAllLightRadii)
Instantiating RegistryToggle
RegistryToggle constructor entered.
adding Keyobserver.
done.
returning
b (adding RegistryToggle)
EventManager: addRegistryToggle called with ToggleShowAllSpeakerRadii (user/ui/s
howAllSpeakerRadii)
Instantiating RegistryToggle
RegistryToggle constructor entered.

I see you reading this topic greebo - I'm hanging on with excitement here. Is this helping?

[greebo 29]

Output from Debug 5. I hope this is getting to the bottom of things.

Not very enlightening, but I hope that this next snapshot will reveal anything. It seems that the first two RegistryToggles are created fine, but the last one crashes. Wtf?

 

Anyway, here's the new snapshot:

http://208.49.149.118/TheDarkMod/DarkRadia...sta_Debug_6.zip

 

I see you reading this topic greebo - I'm hanging on with excitement here. Is this helping?

This information is pretty near to useless. My name will appear under this topic for over 15 minutes, and only indicates that I've once clicked on this topic and that I'm probably busy with other things.