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Springheel

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There is also a thread at TTLG: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121677

 

The whole thing is absolutely mind-boggling.

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Here's the current list of victims, according to Wikipedia:

 

On June 11, 2008 GamePlasma, a gaming news site, posted an article showing certain places in Limbo of the Lost were identical to the game The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.[7] After the revelation, others looking into the game discovered environments and features that appeared to be taken from other games including:

 

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

Black & White 2

Unreal Tournament 2004

Unreal Tournament 2003

Unreal Tournament

Diablo II

Thief: The Dark Project

Thief: Deadly Shadows

a CryENGINE2 Tech Demo

Return to Castle Wolfenstein

Sea Dogs[8][9]

Painkiller

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth

Hexen

World of Warcraft[10][11]

Other scenes appear to be taken from live action films: one from the 1997 film Spawn, Beetlejuice [12], another from Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl and several more from Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End.[13][14]

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Read this on /. this morning and I still can't believe it. WHAT where they thinking? :o:rolleyes::laugh:

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Vadrosaul

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This doesn't surprise me, it's becoming tradition. By logical extension of the quick-buck mentality, creative plagiarism will be followed by artistic plagiarism will be followed by technical plagiarism......

 

Take take stuff from all those sources and to meld it into one seamless project, that's mind boggling genius :laugh:

Yep. We all know a creation completely done by popular consensus works every time, and that a single, unflinching vision is the root of failure. Heck, in this case you don't even need your own vision, just composite pieces of someone else's.

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Crispy

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No, they just took screenshots. Each scene in the game is merely a 2D image. Sort of like Myst, but with far less artistic integrity.

 

At least if they'd re-purposed the maps into their own engine's format then they'd get some points for technical achievement. As it is, they EPIC FAIL on all fronts.

 

I saw a Limbo of the Lost screenshot which actually had an original element! They'd added snow, using the brush tool in Photoshop. You could tell because it didn't look like snow; it looked like a toddler had scribbled white-out over the screenshot.

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Wow...that's quite....just wow....

 

I'm surprised they didn't have any bloom effects etc on when they took them, though considering their backgrounds they probably don't have top end pcs either. Quite a sad story imo.

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You should read through this guys' walkthrough if you're really interested. Not only do 90% of the assets look stolen, but the entire game is a major POS.

 

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=400406&page=2

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You should read through this guys' walkthrough if you're really interested. Not only do 90% of the assets look stolen, but the entire game is a major POS.

 

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=400406&page=2

 

Oh yeah :) Edit: The comments on the screenshots are hillarious!

 

But this screen caught my attention:

 

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll160/A...chitechture.jpg

 

I should get back into mapping.......

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It may be a crap game but the ending is the best ever! :laugh:

*brainspew*

 

...I couldn't listen to more than 15 seconds of that. It was physically painful. :wacko:

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Springheel

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Lol. Here's the official response:

 

In response to the shocking notification that some alleged unauthorized copyrighted materials submitted by sources external to the development team have been found within the PC game Limbo of the Lost, we (the development team) have given our consent and full cooperation to both publishers who are recalling all units from all territories immediately.

 

Please be assured that we do not condone in anyway the use of unauthorized copyrighted materials and if we had been made aware earlier, we would of course have ceased development of the product and rectified the issue prior to the publication process.

 

*some* *alleged* copyrighted materials? Which ones *aren't* plagiarized?

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I don't know. They may have gambled on the fact that they're such small-time developers that no one would bother trying to sue them. Despite claims that the game has been pulled, it's still being sold in various places. They may have honestly thought that the adventure game crowd would be unlikely to play/recognize the kinds of games they stole their assets from.

 

Of course, given Steve Bovis' track record (his bizarre grammar style, his pretending to be someone else and talking up his own game (and then denying it), his outrageous claims in interviews...) he may just be slightly psychotic, and believe that he actually DID create all the graphics from scratch.

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Well after working on a game for 15 years and investing so much in it, and desperate to see it out there.... maybe you sort of just brush things under the carpet of your mind.

 

But in my opinion they were just really naive geezers who thought they could bend the rules and get away with it.

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I was thinking it was a little more pathological than just naivete ... It reminded me of those journalists that start pathologically inventing quotes for newspaper stories, to finally inventing entire stories. Once they get on that track, they just lose all touch with consequences and go completely overboard. It becomes second nature, almost like a compulsion. Apparently this guy was copying even the concept art 20 years ago.

And -- what's so funny about it -- they go so out of their way not to get caught, lying all over the place, but just stopping wasn't an option. It's irrational. Yeah, the profile just strikes me as outright pathological.

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