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Never mind I simple used the wrong entity def :(

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

 

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Are there actually two entities in the .map file?

 

edit: Or is this what you are saying with "commenting out the enttiy def lines"?

 

Nah, sorry, ignore me. I was using "weapon_firearrow" instead of "ammo_firearrow_small". Somehow, our methods on sorting entites is not really good :wacko:

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Somehow, our methods on sorting entites is not really good :wacko:

 

I agree.

 

Probably confuses learning mappers.

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I agree.

 

Probably confuses learning mappers.

 

Btw, HappyCheeze, see here:

 

http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showtopic=8577&hl=

 

B)

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

 

"Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax

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If you want some real confusion, consider folders:

 

/Light sources

/Lights

/Moveables/Lights

 

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Since these were sorted by me, I defend it here:

 

"Light sources" - lights without any models

"Lights" - static lights with models

"Moveable/Lights" - models moveable lights

 

Now I admit I was equally confused the last time I looked at them. But then, how would you sort them?

 

If you put "moveable lights" under lights, people will look for them under moveables. etc?

 

However, feel free to resort them so that it makes more sense, usually you only need to sort the base class into a new folder with editor_DisplayFolder and it is done :)

 

Btw, I moved the Arrows to "Internal" so only "Weapons/Ammo/Arrows" remains and the mapper can't accidentily put the arrows that are attached to the weapon into the map :)

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

 

"Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax

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From a still confused and fresh viewpoint, it seems that "light sources" and "lights" could be merged. The former includes candleflames and the latter includes lamps. Close enough. They're still both sources, and both "lights". Then we can hope that if users want something that moves, they'd check the moveable dir. Gets rid of one folder at least.

 

I dunno, the whole thing is confusing as hell. I'm not sure even why we still have "atdm:" prefixes, as they don't help in this type of case one bit, and in fact make it worse. Our stuff is separated off from unusable D3 stuff, and our stuff is not consistently named anyway. And the "a" is just about sorting, but it doesn't help when you have an "atdm" item next to a true "a..." item. There's a current DR issue requesting within-string search for the type-ahead stuff, which is currently defeated by "atdm", and the prefix will become even more irrelevant if that request is fulfilled.

 

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I saw that, I'm updating SVN right NOW

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Since these were sorted by me, I defend it here:

 

"Light sources" - lights without any models

"Lights" - static lights with models

"Moveable/Lights" - models moveable lights

 

Now I admit I was equally confused the last time I looked at them. But then, how would you sort them?

 

lights/no_models

lights/static

lights/movable

 

If you put "moveable lights" under lights, people will look for them under moveables. etc?

 

Not, if we ALWAYS put all lights under lights. The problem is that we have an N-Dimensional matrix and try to squeeze it into a linear description. The only way to properly solve it is, if we attach tags to each def, like "Light, Movable, Model, etc." and the editor shows you a list based on that tags, instead just a tree with fixed paths. This way the user can look for Moveables if he wants to see movables, and find everything, but if he looks for Light he would find all lights including those objects. The same approach would be also good for textures, because there the same problem applies as well.

 

I think such a strategy could be implemented without any reorgs, as it would be transparent for the user. Organziation of the paths, would also be less critical then.

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