Newbie DarkRadiant Questions

[Obsttorte]

The sound is looped. I guess the engine plays the sound to the end and only than checks whether the entity emitting the sound is still present. You could turn off the sound manually by adding the following command line in front of the command that removes the light:

 

lightEntity.fadeSound(SND_CHANNEL_ANY,0,0.01); 
//lightEntity is the light, fade all sounds on this entity to zero volume over 0.01 seconds

Alternatevely you could try

lightEntity.stopSound(SND_CHANNEL_ANY,0);

[SteveL]

Does the light have a sound shader spawnarg? If the sound is done that way then it's not spawning speakers. The console command you need to check is countEntities.

 

Another tactic that I think might work is to use the fadeToLight script event to set the light to 0 0 0 instead of turning it off, and turn it on again the same way. I seem to remember that that's the one way to turn off a light without triggering the rest of the stuff that happens when a light goes on or off.

[rich_is_bored]

A custom light shader could be made to turn the light on and off repeatedly. You can also use the setShader script event to start/end the event if it's a response to the player/environment.

[DeusXIncognita]

I am thinking of attaching some armor to a guard.

 

I just couldn't find details about it anywhere. There is something in the Wiki about binding things, and I found one very old thread (8 years or something) on it saying thats the only way it can be done, so I just wanted to know if thats still state of the art,

 

Or can I switch pauldrons with some "def_attach" or the like?

Otherwise, could I remove existing pauldrons? Or would I have to chose a model without pauldrons to attach the ones in "entity - darkmod . props - wearables"?

[Moonbo]

Thanks guys, I'll try using the fade sound command, hopefully that'll do the trick.

[Springheel]

 

Or can I switch pauldrons with some "def_attach" or the like?

Otherwise, could I remove existing pauldrons? Or would I have to chose a model without pauldrons to attach the ones in "entity - darkmod . props - wearables"?

 

 

The easiest way is probably to use existing pauldrons that are already set up with def_attach values. If you look in props_wearables.def, (I think that's the one) you should find some examples. I can't quite remember what the name of the attachment point is for them, but if you check out the def file for the builder guards you'll see an example.

[Morat]

To follow Moonbo's sound question, I have a sound question of my own. Is it possible to have different ambient sound shaders dynamically switch back and forth depending on if the player is seen or not? For instance, I'd like to have one 'calm' ambient sound playing while the player is sneaking around, and then once he's caught to switch to a similar but more tense ambient, which would then switch back to the 'calm' ambient when the guards have calmed down.

Edited March 5, 2015 by Morat

[Moonbo]

Hey Morat,

 

You couldn't do that with the standard ambient music system. By default the ambient music system works by dividing the map into locations and then picking an ambient track for each location. When you switch between locations, the ambient music changes. You can change the ambient track in a given location during playtime however the change won't register until the player leaves and then re-enters the location (i.e. if Track A is playing in a location and you switch it to Track B, the player will keep hearing Track A until he moves to a different location and then back to the first location, at which point he'll start hearing Track B ). Since you can't change ambient tracks in real time (without an overhaul of the location system) what you're planning wouldn't work.

 

I'm sure there are plenty of workarounds though. For example, you could just have a set of global speakers that are triggered based on AI alert levels.

Edited March 5, 2015 by Moonbo

[demagogue]

Yes, you'd do it just by a simple script that gets the AI alert states (the function was recently given around here) and activates a speaker if any are over a threshold, and then use some boolean toggle to keep it from perpetually retriggering until it's reset however you want, and turn the speaker off when the alert is back down a few seconds.

[Obsttorte]

You don't need a speaker at all, as you can play the sound "on teh player" directly. Check the locations system script (the scripts are in tdm_base.pk4 iirc) to see how it works.

[DeusXIncognita]

The easiest way is probably to use existing pauldrons that are already set up with def_attach values. If you look in props_wearables.def, (I think that's the one) you should find some examples. I can't quite remember what the name of the attachment point is for them, but if you check out the def file for the builder guards you'll see an example.

Thanks, that works wonderful for people that already have pauldrons attached this way, and people without pauldrons to begin with.

Not for guards with paulsdrons worked in the model already, but thats okay, there are quite a few others to work with.

[demagogue]

You don't need a speaker at all, as you can play the sound "on teh player" directly. Check the locations system script (the scripts are in tdm_base.pk4 iirc) to see how it works.

Actually the location entity itself that that script runs is a speaker (a hidden one. It inherits the speaker base in the def file), and that's what's technically playing the ambients, in its speaker guise.

I know because I wrote it. But it could be possible to script a sound even without a speaker too for all I know. Experiment with the play-sound function and see (can't recall the function name just now). I just made it activate that entity as a secret speaker because I didn't know any better at the time, and it worked anyway. (And it's quite possible I didn't know what I was really doing in my own script. I thought I was playing the speaker. I pre-loaded the tracks into it as if a speaker and everything. But was I really? Experiment with it and see.)

[Springheel]

Not for guards with paulsdrons worked in the model already, but thats okay, there are quite a few others to work with.

 

 

I'm pretty sure only the citywatch have pauldrons built into the model, but there is a version without the pauldrons that can be used instead (or you could make a skin and set them to nodraw).

[Morat]

Thanks for the replies, guys. I'll play around with it some more when I get the chance.

[DeusXIncognita]

 

I'm pretty sure only the citywatch have pauldrons built into the model, but there is a version without the pauldrons that can be used instead (or you could make a skin and set them to nodraw).

One of the Elite Non-Citywatch guards has them too, but all the others are enough to work with.

I am not quite far enough yet, to work with the skins, but if it is necessary and I work it out, I will try that, thanks.

 

Another question:

I am trying to do a patrol route, that leads one of the AI "out of the map" (actually in another part of the map the player has no access to.)

I tried doing this via the "atdm:teleport", and tried several ways to trigger this. First I tried switching the path the patrol is on, then I tried having the path linking to the path in the "outside room", with the last path corner triggering the teleport, then I tried inserting a wait after the last path corner, but whatever I do, the AI gets teleported and then stops dead, not continuing on any path, seemingly no matter what I try.

 

Has someone any idea what the problem might be? Or maybe a workaround? (I will try some other ideas for workarounds, but I really would like to get the AI to teleport and be able to resume their patrol from there.)

Could it be the teleport itself that is the problem? Somehow stopping the patrol?

I am out of ideas at the moment.

[Moonbo]

You can use a change target entity to give the Ai the new path node as a target and trigger that entity along with the teleporter from the last path node of the old route.

[grayman]

Are there humanoid AI in the area you're teleporting him to?

 

If not, place an AI->AAS_flood->aas32_flood entity on the floor of the destination. This generates AAS areas in the destination rooms, allowing pathfinding to work. With no AAS areas, he'll just stand there when he arrives.

[demagogue]

Wow, I've known about that problem for a long time and didn't know you can force an AAS in the dmap. Good piece of knowledge!

[Goldwell]

Does anyone know what script is being used here to make the background continuously move

 

I am trying to make a train that has the background scrolling past like that. I contacted Shadowhide who redirected me to the original creator Constantine who read my message but didn't respond so does anyone have access to that original script? or know how to make it work?

Edited March 6, 2015 by Goldwell

[Obsttorte]

I guess he used func_movers together with a script.

[DeusXIncognita]

Are there humanoid AI in the area you're teleporting him to?

 

If not, place an AI->AAS_flood->aas32_flood entity on the floor of the destination. This generates AAS areas in the destination rooms, allowing pathfinding to work. With no AAS areas, he'll just stand there when he arrives.

Great!

Had I just put a dummy there to test something, I would have saved so much time... Well, it helped me to get a more streamlined method working, with less entities and triggers around, so something good came out of it.

 

The aas32_flood entity worked wonders :-)

Thanks.

Good to know that AI needs access to an area, for aas to be created, too.

[Goldwell]

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Edited March 10, 2015 by Goldwell

[Goldwell]

Is it possible to have an arrow fire from a given location pointing towards somewhere else? I assume its possible with scripting but if theres an entity that would do it that would be great as well

 

Its for a trap i'm setting up. The player presses a button and then an arrow fires at them from the wall behind

Edited March 10, 2015 by Goldwell

[Moonbo]

I think there was a trap like that in Ulysees (you opened a desk in the basement you start in and an arrow shot out) - not sure how Sotha set it up, but would be easy to check :-).

[Goldwell]

I think there was a trap like that in Ulysees (you opened a desk in the basement you start in and an arrow shot out) - not sure how Sotha set it up, but would be easy to check :-).

 

I thought I saw something like that in that FM. Thank you!