Newbie DarkRadiant Questions

[Fidcal]

Does it still work? eg, you can select a menu? Or has it actually crashed? Locked up? If so, maybe it's the rendering mode in the preferences.

[Subjective Effect]

I had this problem. I think its to do with nVidia cards and Vista. There is some easy way to fix it but I've had everything uninstalled for so long I forget how.

 

If you search all my previous posts you'll find the answer. I've just tried but I can't find it and don't have time to keep trawling though it all.

[Pollee]

The video card is ordinary. I have "mobile intel r 965 express chipset family", driver is "Intel r Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile". Should I try to change the driver?

 

It doesnt seem to be crashed. Everything looks fine, but I cant see anything.

By the way TDM works surprisingly quite well.

[greebo]

We had one more bug report of a user running an intel 965 graphics chip.

 

http://bugs.angua.at/view.php?id=1765

 

This seems to point to the vista graphics driver, which doesn't want to dance with DarkRadiant.

[Subjective Effect]

I had the same thing Pollee, exactly the same. There is a solution and its just one setting somewhere. Running as admin or something simple like that. Sorry I can't remember atm.

[greebo]

@Pollee: have you tried turning off Aero, i.e. using Vista Basic? IIRC that's what Subjective Effect was doing back then.

[Pollee]

I am relly stupid and sorry for wasting your time. It needed only the actualization of the card, now it works. Thanks for your advices.

Edited May 28, 2009 by Pollee

[greebo]

It needed only the actualization of the card, now it works. Thanks for your advices.

What did you do exactly? The reporter of that bug I linked might be interested in some specific advice.

[Pollee]

I only let the driver to find the actualization itself, then restart. That is why I am so ashamed.

[Mortem Desino]

Ashamed? Nobody here wants to tear you down. In fact, now you've helped give the team a sort of documentation of this problem.

 

My new computer I'm building from scratch might end up running Vista and who know? Maybe I would have ended up with this problem.

[Subjective Effect]

Yes! It was Aero! I remember now. Must remember to turn it off when I start using it again.

[Albert]

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Edited March 31, 2020 by Albert

[greebo]

Howju fix it?

 

I can quote it for you, but you'll have to read it yourself.

 

I only let the driver to find the actualization itself, then restart.

[Albert]

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Edited March 31, 2020 by Albert

[Pollee]

You can do that in the program (driver) which controls the video card, ussualy there is a button for that purpose. That is like updating of your antivirus, it finds those actualizations itself.

[Albert]

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Edited March 31, 2020 by Albert

[AluminumHaste]

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but as I was poking around at Intel's website I found this driver update which suppose OpenGL 2.0.

 

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17407/a08/winvista_15124.exe

[SneaksieDave]

Hm, do you know of a driver for XP? I've got onboard intels on a system that can't do render mode in DR because it's lacking opengl drivers (I think).

[AluminumHaste]

Hm, do you know of a driver for XP? I've got onboard intels on a system that can't do render mode in DR because it's lacking opengl drivers (I think).

 

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17353/a08/win2k_xp14371.exe

[SneaksieDave]

Eeenteresting, I'll give it a shot, thx.

 

Edit: Nope. Device installed is G33/G31 express chipset. Followed links for that driver (the one recommended by the site itself) which agrees with your link. It also agrees with the currently installed driver (from last year). Download, attempt install. Installer informs that it's not correct for this device. Even though everything agrees, and they themselves said it is the correct file. Sigh, whatever.

[AluminumHaste]

Eeenteresting, I'll give it a shot, thx.

 

Edit: Nope. Device installed is G33/G31 express chipset. Followed links for that driver (the one recommended by the site itself) which agrees with your link. It also agrees with the currently installed driver (from last year). Download, attempt install. Installer informs that it's not correct for this device. Even though everything agrees, and they themselves said it is the correct file. Sigh, whatever.

 

I might be able to fix this for you, go into Device Manager, open the properties for your intel graphics. Go to the "Details" tab and copy the Hardware ID's here. I'll add them to the intel inf so it will install on your computer.

 

EDIT: Also you have the G33/G31 chipset, but it's probably OEM and therefore the hardware id's are not found in the Intel INF file, so it won't install.

[SneaksieDave]

Well, here are the two (no idea why there are two; work system) properties details:

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_02941028&REV_0A\3&172E68DD&0&10

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C3&SUBSYS_02941028&REV_0A\3&172E68DD&0&11

 

Not sure I'll try to 'force' install the drivers though. If I hose this system I have to start the whole annoying setup over.

[AluminumHaste]

Well, here are the two (no idea why there are two; work system) properties details:

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2&SUBSYS_02941028&REV_0A\3&172E68DD&0&10

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C3&SUBSYS_02941028&REV_0A\3&172E68DD&0&11

 

Not sure I'll try to 'force' install the drivers though. If I hose this system I have to start the whole annoying setup over.

 

Well you can't "hose" a system with display drivers. You can always start in safe mode, uninstall the drivers then restart the computer and install the OEM ones again.

 

EDIT: Interesting, I was modifying the inf and saw that those HW ID's are already present...

 

%iBLBG0% = iBLB0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C2

%iBLBG1% = iBLB1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C3

 

So you should be able to use the "Have Disk" method of installing the drivers. So open the win2k_xp14371.exe with winzip or powerarchiver or whichever program you use, and extract the files somewhere.

Now go to Device Manager and open the properties of your display adapter and go the "Driver" tab. Now press the "Update Driver" button. When the wizard comes up, select "No, not this time" and hit "Next". At the next screen choose "Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)" and hit "Next".

 

Now select "Don't seach. I will choose the driver to install" and hit "Next". In the next screen click the "Have Disk" button, and when the prompt comes up, click the "Browse" button. Browse to where you extracted the intel driver package and you will find the inf file located in: Graphics\igxp32.inf.

Now click the "Open" button, then click "OK".

 

Hopefully it will then install the drivers. Good luck, but there's no need for me to modify the package with your hardware ID's as they are already included.

[Sativy]

This thread is simply a place where you can ask simple questions without fear of being accused of not using the search function, or not taking the time to read through a couple of pages of threads.

 

Lots of newbie questions tend to clutter up the main forum with unnecessary threads, so everyone would appreciate having those questions being safely tucked away in here.

 

Ask away

[duc]

I am currently wrestling with bevels, basically whenever I create one it always textures only the inside of the curve and it always does it in the zy axis. This is making me completely crazy is there a way to stop it making an 'inner bevel'? Obviously I can rotate the patch and manipulate the vertices but it seems to be the opposite of how most tutorials describe the function working in dedit or DR.