Dynamic clothing attachments

[ascottk]

This is the kind of stuff that keeps me awake at night

 

I remember a discussion about having animated/ragdoll clothing attachments or something or other so I've been experimenting today since we figured out how to work with copy_joint decls

 

Here's a video of the animated version (xvid - just a rough & subtle animation, no normal maps):

http://www.dramthethief.com/darkmod/videos/animatedcape.avi

 

model dynamic_cape {
mesh		models/md5/props/cape/dynamic_cape.md5mesh
anim idle	models/md5/props/cape/idle01.md5anim
{
random_cycle_start
}
anim af_pose		models/md5/props/cape/af_pose.md5anim
anim death	models/md5/props/cape/af_pose.md5anim
}

entityDef atdm:dynamic_cape
{
"editor_displayFolder"	"Moveables/Wearables"
"spawnclass"			"idAnimated"
"model"					"dynamic_cape"
"joint"					"Spine2"
"origin"				"-2 -2 0"
"angles"				"0 90 90"
"start_anim"			"idle"
"ragdoll"			"cape"
}

entityDef atdm:env_cape
{
"inherit" 						"atdm:af_entity_base"

	"editor_mins"					"0 -0.5 -12"
"editor_maxs"					"40 0.5 0"
"editor_usage"		 			"Ragdoll for cape"
	"editor_displayFolder" 			"Ragdolls"

"nodrop"						"1"
"model"							"dynamic_cape"
"joint"					"Spine2"
"origin"				"-2 -2 0"
"angles"				"0 90 90"
"articulatedfigure"				"cape"
"frobable"					"0"
}

 

& here's the map spawnargs:

// entity 4
{
"classname" "atdm:ai_proguard_02"
"name" "atdm_ai_proguard_02_5"
"copy_joint Head" "controlhead"
"copy_joint Neck" "controlneck"
"def_attach2" "atdm:dynamic_cape"
"def_head" "atdm:ai_head_proguard_no_helmet"
"offsetHeadModel" "0 0 0"
"origin" "-40 64 -64"
"skin" "characters/proguard_02/no_cape"
"team" "0"
}

 

& a crappy screenie:

 

I tried the ragdoll but it just stays in place & then flies off after a KO or death & it's stiff (crappy af but I can't get it to work).

 

The problem with the animated version is it keeps being animated after KO or death but it attaches very nicely.

 

I might try a version for the old rig so ppl can test.

[HappyCheeze]

WOW

 

Thats awesome

[Domarius]

Oh I thought the animation was going to be of your physics version...

 

I think in Oblivion they just weight mapped them like the rest of the clothes, so they moved with the body but didn't flap around at all. Looks okay as long as nothing drastic is happening...

[Springheel]

We had talked about attaching ragdoll accessories a while back. There's nothing stopping it from being done, in principle, but the performance impact would be quite large for what is a fairly minor cosmetic effect. I suspect a pre-animated cloak would be quite difficult to pull off in a way that looks believable when an AI sits, runs, or leans forward.

[Mortem Desino]

Is that cape AF set "solidForTeam" "1"? That by itself may be causing the erratic behavior.

[Ishtvan]

I could see it working for something small like a pony tail (and it probably wouldn't have to be animated, could just be a ragdoll bound on). Something so large as a cape seems like it would look unbelievable in a lot of situations, like if the AI goes ragdoll and falls off of something, or goes into water, etc. I would love to be proven wrong if a good ragdoll can be designed for it, but it seems hard. It seems like something so large as a cape would need a lot of joints/AF bodies to look right.