Best AntiVirus?

[LDAsh]

3 hours ago, SeriousToni said:

I don't know what you guys do on your computer but I must say I'm totally fine with the windows standard solution. I guess if you don't rip games or visit pr0n sites or even open up spam mails that's totally fine and saves a lot of money and system resources.

How naive.  I just posted exactly why that is, and it has nothing to do with wares or porn.

If you scan with Windows Defender and don't find anything = does NOT mean you have nothing to worry about.

You can easily find nasty stuff on places like SourceForge and even Google Play.  Nobody is safe.  Ever.

[SeriousToni]

Yes of course. I didn't want to make you think that I feel invulnerable. For the last years I never had a virus problem with just using the windows standard software that's all  

[Zerg Rush]

1 hour ago, LDAsh said:

How naive.  I just posted exactly why that is, and it has nothing to do with wares or porn.

If you scan with Windows Defender and don't find anything = does NOT mean you have nothing to worry about.

You can easily find nasty stuff on places like SourceForge and even Google Play.  Nobody is safe.  Ever.

Yes, the web is full of nasty stuff, but if you want to download a infected stuff in Windows, you'll see, you can't, because all downloads are scanned by default by the defender which interrupt all infected files. 

Even if you manage to download it, it does not allow you to run it if this file tries to access the system or tries to make changes to it.
It is clear that 100% security does not exist, but Windows currently comes close, closer than many commercial AVs.
Aside from being part of the system itself, it has much more control over it than other third-party AVs and it also doesn't slow down the system by taking up unnecessary RAM.

Precisely because Windows in the past has been the main target for all types of malware, MS has not rested on its laurels and in recent years has shielded Windows as much as possible.
While other OS, such as MAC and especially Linux have never had significant problems in this field, they were believed to be safe. But they were only so, not because of their characteristics, but only because, being minority systems, there was not much malware that targeted them. But this is already changing and Linux can be caught with its pants down, since there is no AV that deserves this name for this OS, not even one with real-time protection.

Edited August 17, 2021 by Zerg Rush

[datiswous]

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Edited August 17, 2021 by datiswous

[LDAsh]

To anyone honking the M$ horn and saying their built-in solution is marvelous, well, I would be willing to (privately) share a file with you that, as I've already mentioned twice, it does not detect with the current definitions.  I keep seeing it ranked highly on top-5 AV webpages, but in my personal experience, it fails time and time again.

(*not entirely sure how legal that is, so no, won't actually do it...  would really like to, though!)

[SeriousToni]

As I stated, again, it isn't "marvelous". But it's good enough to keeping me free of "We recorded your genitals, please send us 5.000$" so far and that's sufficient for me personally. No one said you'd have to agree or prove us wrong really

[revelator]

a built in security solution should pr default be one of the best means to avoiding unpleasantries does not mean it does not have to be on its toes though.

luckily defender has come a long way since the bullcrap they touted back in the win7 days, so i feel atleast a modicrum of security with it.

that they changed win10 to an ad platform is kinda a letdown though  

[Zerg Rush]

It is well known that Windows 10 does not stand out precisely for being respectful of privacy and that it comes with a lot of bundle- and Spyware by default to 'improve the user experience'.
But on the other hand, with a little notions, you can get rid of all this (GodMode, some apps, like WPD and others, that allow you to remove these bad habits).
But this has nothing to do with security against viruses and malware, which in W10 is almost perfect (100% detection rate and 0 false positives in different tests, better than many commercial AVs). Also recommend to use blockers like uBlock Origin (ad and trackerblocker) and Trace (antifingerprint and header spoofer), both blocks also fraudulent webs (malware, phising). (Both OSS)
It is clear, there is always malware that can take advantage of a security hole, which is not usually the OS itself, but the user.
In other words, if you caught a virus with Defender, you would have caught it the same with any other AV.

Edited August 18, 2021 by Zerg Rush

[revelator]

well i know of quite a few false positives it does suffer from (anything remotly related to gcc etc. atleast versions made before we got mingw-w64 builds that supported ASLR and DEP and 80% of things that was built using these), but they also trigger most other antivirus engines so in that regard its neither better nor worse.

[HMart]

Used Avast before, today, I use windows defender add no need for another anti-virus. 

[Zerg Rush]

Before, in Windows 7 I used Panda Dome, its one of the best, cloud based.

[Oktokolo]

If you have to use some antivirus for compliance reasons, Windows Defender will let you add that checkmark on the list...

But personally i don't use any snakeoil.
Detection rates are abyssmal for current treats and the common snakeoil solutions are running all sorts of parsers in a way too powerful security context. The only thing they really improve a lot is the attack surface.