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Just so this isn't missed, there's an issue with the run animation and combat. AI can run while attacking, but the run animation makes them bend forward too far:

 

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i can adjust the position of the back.

 

if he is just taking a few steps, wouldn't it be better to give him another type of animation? I have yet to see it ingame so i might be wrong here.

 

Yeah, it might be that this looks equally "silly" like the issue we had (have) a while back with them:

 

* stopping

* turning on the spot

* running 2 steps forward

* stopping

* turning again

 

and if you moved one step, they'd repeat that.

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if he is just taking a few steps, wouldn't it be better to give him another type of animation?

 

I'm not sure if there is any code to distinguish between charging across the room or taking a few steps. I'd post in that combat thread and let Ishtvan answer that.

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I'm not sure if there is any code to distinguish between charging across the room or taking a few steps. I'd post in that combat thread and let Ishtvan answer that.

It's not just combat, it's all AI movement, and no, there is no code to distinguish running a small distance vs. running long distances. There is a walking vs. running distinction, but this is more about their alert state or the urgency of their action.

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it's usually done for games in which you play in thirdperson. But you'll have to decide at what speed a character is walking, running and sprinting and even those settings can be split up into more variations. I could animate a slower kind of jogging animation but if it's too much work to add in code i would just edit the position of the back.

 

it would also be nice if the engine supported blending between animations. That would make such transitions look much better instead of seeing an instant state change.

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it's usually done for games in which you play in thirdperson. But you'll have to decide at what speed a character is walking, running and sprinting and even those settings can be split up into more variations. I could animate a slower kind of jogging animation but if it's too much work to add in code i would just edit the position of the back.

 

it would also be nice if the engine supported blending between animations. That would make such transitions look much better instead of seeing an instant state change.

 

I thought the engine does support that, but I might be wrong. AFAIR> you can choose how many frames it should blend over, and setting that to 0 means "teleport". However, my memory might be failing me :)

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So maybe you can whip up a quick "run a few steps forward" animation? :)

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I don't mean so much a smooth blend between different movement states as much as saying, it looks bad that they're in a position of full sprint and sometimes even looking at the ground while fighting the player. I'd take an unsmooth animation change over the sprint-fighting.

 

Thus the suggestion to tone down the run in general, from a track-sprinter, to a guy in armor jogging. It won't be a perfect solution, but better than current.

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i've adjusted the back position. We are not talking about a sprint and like those sprinters mentioned earlier and those guards wouldn't be able to run like that because of all the heavy armor.

 

You do see more of the leaning in cartoon characters. I have a few videos/books with some references which illustrates some of those extreme poses. The current run was not intented to be combined with combat actions. I would've created a separate combat action for those type of actions because even with a straight back it usually looks kind of odd.

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