Trigger_hurt, how to use? How does it work?

[RJFerret]

Anyone familiar with trigger_hurt who might explain how to use it? The benefits of using it instead of simply applying a damage stim to an existing entity? The cons? Is it obsolete?

 

Any particularly useful spawnargs associated with it? Do different damage defs do different things (aside from the obvious numerical magnitude)? Are they explained anywhere?

 

The current wiki page on it is no help whatsoever. ;-)

 

Appreciate any insights please!

[stumpy]

I thinks its an any size volume brush, bit like trigger_multiple but it damages the activator of the trigger, either player or ai. from the defs file it says you can set the type of damage defined in the damage.def file and the delay in seconds the damage is applied to activator.

 

the brush can be triggered on and off. it defaults to starting on and damage_painTrigger every second.

 

there's a lot of damage types in the damage def file, too many to list.

[SteveL]

I've used these to damage the player because I've never yet managed to get a damage stim working. They are handy for positioning over bonfires because the default behaviour is to apply 10 points of damage per second. I've not had to change those settings, but there's a couple of clues in the entity def:

 

"editor_usage" "Damages the activator. Can be turned on or off by other triggers."

"editor_bool on" "Whether or not it is active."

"editor_var delay" "Delay between damage in seconds defaults to 1"

"editor_var def_damage" "Damage def to use, common ones are damage_painTrigger, damage_triggerhurt_100, damage_triggerhurt_1000"

"on" "1"

"def_damage" "damage_painTrigger"

 

The damages are defined in tdm_defs01/def/tdm_damage.def. Looks like there's no difference except in magnitude. The default damage_paintrigger is:

 

entityDef damage_painTrigger {

"damage" "10"

}

 

All the bespoke damage_trigger_hurt look like this with nothing set and only the magnitude changing:

 

 

entityDef damage_triggerhurt_75 {

"damage" "75"

"kickDir" "0 0 0"

"mtr_blob" "genericDamage"

"blob_time" "0"

"blob_size" "0"

"blob_offset_x" "0"

"knockback" "0"

"kick_time" "0"

"kick_amplitude" "0"

"dv_time" "100"

}

 

 

But there are plenty of more interesting damages in that file, which could presumably be used with a trigger hurt too. This looks fun:

 

 

entityDef damage_HugeExplosion {

"damage" "500"

"radius" "256"

"push" "10000"

"knockback" "200"

}

 

Yes that worked. I didn't quite splat against the skybox as hoped, just against a nearby wall.

[RJFerret]

Thank you both, and awesome, I had no clue we could cause knockbacks! Sounds like you want to write a custom def to blast yourself into the skybox. ;-)

 

Taking both your posts, I wrote this entry in the wiki: http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Triggers#trigger_hurt

 

Please revise, or inform me to revise accordingly, thanks!

[SteveL]

That's a good, concise summary. I can't think of anything to suggest adding. I was wondering whether to mention that the damage defs are viewable in DR in the root of the entity tree (which I noticed only last night) but I see you got it anyway.