simplen00b

November 2, 2012

If you like scary atmospheres, then yes, play it. I'd say it's the atmosphere that was the scariest thing about it for me - the AI that AngelWolf refers to are pretty freaky but truth is, they aren't that hard to avoid/defeat. It was the constant drip-feed of discovering what an awful place it was that did my head in. TBH, I can admire the work that went into it but it was too genuinely unpleasant for me (I'm not a big horror games fan) and I never enjoyed it as a Thief mission.

it's a lot of scripted boo tactics.

Is it? The only scripted boo tactics I can remember are

the banging in the attic

, and maybe

turning on the generator

. Otherwise, the scripted stuff I remember was more to do with making you feel increasingly trapped and powerless.

Happy to be corrected though as I haven't played it for years.

November 2, 2012

Do I use DarkLoader or GarrettLoader

Neither - 1.19 comes with its own FM loader.

November 1, 2012

Yeah, really: -

Blind luck I found out that was the problem - I just happened to do a right click on TheDarkMod.exe (can't remember why) and saw a 'Run with graphics processor' option, which was set to integrated graphics as default :blink: . What baffles me is that it evidently ran 1.07 on the 555M without any instruction from me, but as soon as I upgraded to 1.08, it decided TDM needed the awesome processing power that only Integrated Graphics Chip can provide :rolleyes: .

Whatever. Just glad I can now dive into the lovely glittering pool of 1.08 gorgeousness . Played Glenham Tower last night and there's something very satisfying about the clatter of revenants' armour hitting the floor as they succumb to my repeated sword-whackings.

(Love your 'unh??' pic, BTW. Have added it to my collection.)

October 31, 2012

Yay! Found the cause of my low fps (and it's nothing to do with 1.08) - for what I'm sure were VERY VERY GOOD REASONS, nvidia was directing 1.08 to play on my laptop's integrated graphics chip instead of the GT555M card.

(Pause to let that sink in.)

I mean, really: -

Thanks to everyone who offered help & suggestions. Just opened 'In the North' and the outside area (which was running at 10-12 fps) is now running at 35-40.

Don't know how to edit the thread title to say [solved], so if someone could tell me how to do it (or do it) that'd be great.

Now to play a few missions and give a proper answer to the '1.08 impressions' thread...

October 31, 2012

That ledge above us is tantalising, but out of reach. Our way is blocked. Is the tower just barricaded off? Are our hopes in vain? Anyway, we will at least build a crate tower so tall, we will see what is on the top! We return to the basement. For more crates. /...

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Above and beyond. (Pretty sure I'd've given up less than half-way through.)

It is possible to get a rope arrow into the wooden beam that the bell hangs off, but the rope doesn't go anywhere useful...

October 30, 2012

There is one particular challenge I'll try yet,

I must bring a bunch of boxes to that belltower and climb it from the outside! <img class="bbc_emoticon" alt=" " title=" " src="http://forums.thedarkmod.com/public/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.png">

Oooh...hadn't thought of that...after spending about ten minutes trying (and failing) to find a place that could take a rope arrow, I just gave up

October 29, 2012

You must use 1.08

Yup. I tried running it under 1.07 and had exactly the same problem.

October 25, 2012

Finally finished - had another malloc crash en route, but fortunately I had started to do more frequent hard saves so didn't lose too much of the game. Great mission - special likes:

Loved the winter ambience, even with my fps slowing to a crawl whenever I was outside. BTW - breath clouding when AI were outside - has that ever been done in a winter FM before?

Fantastic layout: everywhere led to everywhere else - the few doors I couldn't open were clearly indicated.

Great readables - really built a sense of the characters and their life in the household (cathedral-hold?). As others have mentioned, you're very good at doing readables that make you feel like a heel for having just hoovered up the loot next to it. (Cheers <_< )

No key-hunting!

Textures looked great.

Loved the final movie - didn't actually fully understand it when it played, but it struck me a little while later - apart from everything else, Trumble really wouldn't have liked that creepy "watching Mary while she sleeps" stuff

And even the final section in the catacombs wasn't too freaky - managed to get past the revenants without reloading (which is more than I can say for Lady Isabella's guards :unsure: . The thing about them being mute is a really nice touch.)

Definitely one of the most immersive FMs ever. Thanks Grayman.

October 25, 2012

...you start watching Iron Man 2 and within three minutes you're thinking "Oooh - nice grimy wall texture..."

October 25, 2012

has the main menu music changed?
No....

Ahem. With my performance problems re 1.08. I dug out a back-up copy of 1.07 and realised what had happened. Way back when I started playing TDM, I (for reasons passing understanding) turned the main menu music off.

Mistake now rectified. :blush:

October 25, 2012

If you place a speaker in DR, it will open a list of all the soundshader names. D3 soundshaders are under "base", and if you select one it will tell you exactly what files are part of that shader (and you can even play it directly from that window).

Sounds like that could be easier. I'll give it a go

October 24, 2012

I recommend getting 8 bucks together and just grabbing this. http://www.amazon.co...&condition=used

Its not Steam-laiden, so you can snag a used copy. Its much better than wasting your time trying to do something that at best will constantly crash during gameplay due to missing assets like the above mentioned skeleton zombies.

+1. Got mine for £6 from Amazon UK. Never played Doom itself - not keen on splat-em-ups - but it's the best £6 I've ever spent on a game

October 24, 2012

I just try to use KO instead of bj.

Makes it easier to stop the mental imagery going places I'd rather it didn't...

October 24, 2012

Sounds have "soundshaders" similar to textures. Soundshaders look something like this: (etc)

OK - think I've worked it out, and have started making a list that identifies the specific soundfile associated with the shader header description from the list (NB - I have a couple of queries highlighted in yellow):

_default.wav

??? [- does this refer to the files in …\pak003\sound\ed\default - ?]

activate_airpump_02.wav

sound/machinery/machines/1shot_airpump_02_activate.wav

sound/machinery/machines/loop_airpump_02.wav

admin_impdoor_creak.wav

sound/ed/admin_impdoors/creak1.wav

sound/ed/admin_impdoors/creak2.wav

alarm.wav

??? [- does this mean all the files listed in alarms.sndshd - ?]

ambient_metal_stresses.wav

sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_02.wav

sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_03.wav

sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_05.wav

sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_06.wav

//sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_01.wav

//sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_04.wav

//sound/xian/metals/long_ambient_stresses/long_ambient_stress_07.wav

bodyparts.wav

sound/impact/guts/guts_01.wav

sound/impact/guts/guts_02.wav

sound/impact/guts/guts_03.wav

sound/impact/guts/guts_04.wav

sound/impact/guts/guts_05.wav

bones_fall.wav

sound/impact/bones/bones_01.wav

sound/impact/bones/bones_02.wav

book_impact.wav

sound/impact/books/book_01.wav

sound/impact/books/book_02.wav

sound/impact/books/book_03.wav

sound/impact/books/book_04.wav

sound/impact/books/book_05.wav

sound/impact/books/book_06.wav

breakable_light_hum.wav

sound/lights/loop_neonlight_buzz_05.wav

bridge_up_speaker.wav

sound/levels/alphalabs4/bridge_up_1s.wav

bullet_impact_flesh.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_04.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_05.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_07.wav

/*

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_01.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_02.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_03.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_06.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_08.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_09.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_flesh/fleshimpact_10.wav

bullet_impact_stone.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_stone/stoneimpact_01.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_stone/stoneimpact_02.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_stone/stoneimpact_03.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_stone/stoneimpact_04.wav

bullet_impact_wood.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_wood/woodimpact_01.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_wood/woodimpact_02.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_wood/woodimpact_03.wav

sound/weapons/impacts/bullet_wood/woodimpact_04.wav

burger_impact.wav

sound/impact/burger/burger_01.wav

sound/impact/burger/burger_02.wav

sound/impact/burger/burger_03.wav

sound/impact/burger/burger_04.wav

caco_projectile.wav

sound/monsters/cacodemon/fireball_travel_loop.wav

cage_elevatordoor_close.wav

sound/ed/doors/_elevator_silver_twopaned/close1.wav

cage_elevatordoor_open.wav

sound/ed/doors/_elevator_silver_twopaned/outer_1.wav

ceiling_tiles.wav

sound/ed/sfx/ceiling_tiles/tile1.wav

sound/ed/sfx/ceiling_tiles/tile2.wav

sound/ed/sfx/ceiling_tiles/tile3.wav

sound/ed/sfx/ceiling_tiles/tile4.wav

sound/ed/sfx/ceiling_tiles/tile5.wav

cpu_m3_loop.wav

sound/movers/_general_movement/m3_loop.wav

d3dm5_generator_off.wav

sound/levels/d3dm5/gen_off.wav

d3dm5_generator_on.wav

sound/levels/d3dm5/gen_on.wav

sound/levels/d3dm5/gen_loop.wav

default_door_unlocked.wav

sound/doors/door_unlocked_02.wav

e3_metalbash_01.wav

sound/e3/1shot_metalbash_06.wav

elevator_moving_loop.wav

sound/ed/elevator/elev_loop.wav

Etc, etc. I'm happy to go through the whole list and add the sound file paths associated with the shader, unless someone's got a better system. (I'll do it just for my own reference anyway :smile: .)

For the record, my working method for putting the above list together was:

1. Point the search programme (I use Agent Ransack) at my folder of unzipped D3 base paks

2. Tell it to look for a *.sndshd file containing the text of each item on the list, excluding the ".wav" suffix (e.g. "activate_airpump_02")

3. Open the file it finds in Notepad

4. Tell Notepad to find the same 'containing' search item I used in step 2 (i.e. "activate_airpump_02")

5. Copy the sound file paths listed beneath that header in the .sndshd file and paste them into the new document above.

The two queries in the list above are from when those steps didn't return a definite result. If I've fundamentally misunderstood the system, let me know :smile: .

Like I say, I'll do the whole list for my own reference, but if people think it'd be useful for the wiki, I'm happy to upload it, but I need to be shown how to sign up for it. (May be a good idea to get a system going where people can say they're working on particular files to try and avoid duplication, but not sure how that would work.)

October 24, 2012

Looking at the Missing assets for standalone page on the wiki to see if I could help with textures and/or sounds, and I have a few noob questions: -

1) Textures

The first list says:

Missing for the new SL (these might be shaders, not textures, it is hard to tell):

- What does SL stand for?

- If they are shaders and not textures, (i) how would I know? (ii) what is a shader (can't find anything much on the wiki), and (iii) how would I create one in TDM? (Told you they were noob q's.)

For the "Missing otherwise" list, I'm going through the decals from pak004, and I'm surprised how small most of them are - 128x128 or smaller seems quite common. Am I looking at the right ones? (I thought they'd be larger.)

2) Sounds

i) General observation: my soundfiles seem to be mainly .ogg rather then .wav as per the list - is that a problem?

ii) I'm finding it hard to find many of these soundfiles in the D3 paks. For the first file on the list (_default.wav) - I found _default.ogg in pak000, so I guess that's it. However, things get a bit confusing going on down the list: -

activate_airpump_02.wav

- found

loop_airpump_02

; is that it?

admin_impdoor_creak.wav

- there's an

'admin_impdoors'

folder with creak1 and creak2

alarm.wav

- there are various 'loop_alarms' and an 'alarm_02', but can't find 'alarm'

ambient_metal_stresses.wav

- there's a 'pak003\sound\ambient\metals' folder which has various '

1shot_metalstress

' sounds; or there's 'pak003\sound\xian\metals\long_ambient_stresses' folder which has some '

long_ambient_stress

' sounds.

bodyparts.wav

- got body_drag, body_rot and a body_vert. Don’t have any bodyparts (lol)

...and so on. Are the names on the list referring to soundsets that need changing (e.g. the ambient_metal_stresses; do all the 'long_ambient_stress' sounds need replacing?) Has there been some name-changing down the line? Are my paks messed up? Or am I just missing something? Any guidance welcome :smile: .

October 24, 2012

are you getting any memory related errors in any other apps..?

None that I can remember off-hand, but I'm not running many other big apps at the mo (apart from 1.07).

Can't be certain, but I'm pretty sure that since the crash 'In the North' is running slightly slower than it was already. Quicksaves are definitely slower - the game pauses for about 2 seconds, instead of about half-a-second - and it feels like the game takes longer to load too. Didn't put a stopwatch on it before though, so not totally certain <_<

Ah well. Hopefully some solution will emerge and I'll be able to join in the 1.08 party.

Instead of standing outside peering forlornly through the window.

**Buries head in arms and wails inconsolably** :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

October 24, 2012

have you applied the 4Gb patch to the doom3.exe and the darkmod.exe files..?

Yes for thedarkmod.exe, no for doom3.exe (I thought I read TDM doesn't use that exe any more) but just applied it - no difference, I'm afraid.

October 23, 2012

I've just had my first ever TDM-crash-with-a-message-box - a realloc failure (whatever that is):

Keeping maps/ws1_north.aas_rat

No running thread for RestoreScriptObject(), creating new one.

--------------------------------------

-----------------------------------

1320 msec to load ws1_north

interactionTable generated of size: 134217728 bytes

WARNING:idAFBody::SetDensity: center of mass (0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000) not at origin (-0.000001, 0.018725, -0.000060) for body 'CMeleeWeapon_atdm:moveable_dagger_38110848640'

WARNING:idAFBody::SetDensity: center of mass (0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000) not at origin (-0.000001, 0.018725, -0.000060) for body 'CMeleeWeapon_atdm:moveable_dagger_276010848640'

Bloom Kernel size is set to: Small

Using TDM's enhanced interaction

Restarting ambient sound snd_abbey with volume 0.356239

Changed location from 'InfoLocMain' to 'InfoLocDiningRoomHall'.

Changed location from 'InfoLocDiningRoomHall' to 'InfoLocDiningRoom'.

Changed location from 'InfoLocDiningRoom' to 'InfoLocDiningRoomHall'.

Changed location from 'InfoLocDiningRoomHall' to 'InfoLocDiningRoom'.

AI PAIN

--------- Game Map Shutdown ----------

WARNING:Door VaultEntranceDoor is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door ChestLid_1 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door MetalChestLid_2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SecretTunnelDeskDoor is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door FootlockerLid_3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DeskFlipDownDoor2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door OldChestLid_2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door FootlockerLid_4 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door JewelleryBoxLid_2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door OldChestLid_3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorSafe is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_sliding_3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_sliding_7 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_sliding_8 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_1 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_7 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_9 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_10 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_11 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_12 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door sarcophagus2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door lidPlacer2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door TunnelDoor is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep1 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep4 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep5 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep6 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep7 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep8 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door SarcStep9 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door FootlockerLid_6 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeA3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeB3 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeA1 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeB1 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeA2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door DoorWardrobeB2 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_6 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_13 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_14 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_16 is not within a valid AAS area

WARNING:Door atdm_mover_door_8 is not within a valid AAS area

ModelGenerator memory: 6 LOD entries with 6 users using 3976 bytes.

WARNING:idClipModel::FreeTraceModel: tried to free uncached trace model (index=0)

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reloading guis/mainmenu.gui.

reloading guis/restart.gui.

reloading guis/msg.gui.

reloading guis/map/ws1_north.gui.

reloading guis/tdm_inv.gui.

reloading guis/tdm_loot.gui.

reloading guis/playertools/compass.gui.

reloading guis/tdm_lockpick.gui.

reloading guis/tdm_hud.gui.

reloading guis/map_of_cellar.gui.

reloading guis/map_of_floor1.gui.

reloading guis/map_of_floor2.gui.

reloading guis/tdm_message_no_art.gui.

WARNING:Unknown string id #str_02618

WARNING:Unknown string id #str_02619

WARNING:Unknown string id #str_02048

reloading guis/scoreboard.gui.

reloading guis/spectate.gui.

reloading guis/chat.gui.

reloading guis/mpmain.gui.

WARNING:Unknown string id #str_02497

WARNING:Unknown string id #str_04240

reloading guis/mpmsgmode.gui.

reloading guis/playertools/spyglass.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_mac_humaine_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_camberic_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/scrolls/scroll_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_andrew_script_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_andrew_script_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_andrew_script_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/scrolls/scroll_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_mac_humaine_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_ellianerelle_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/scrolls/scroll_hand_medusa_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_mac_humaine_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/scrolls/scroll_hand_medusa_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/scrolls/scroll_print_carleton_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_summertime_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_andrew_script_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_summertime_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_treasure_map_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/books/book_calig_summertime_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_hand_nancy_world.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

reloading guis/nameplates.gui.

reloading guis/readables/sheets/sheet_paper_calig_carolingia_world.gui.

--------- Map Initialization ---------

Map: ws1_north

idRenderWorldLocal::InitFromMap: retaining existing map

------- Game Map Init SaveGame -------

Compiled 'C:\Program Files (x86)\DOOM 3\darkmod\maps\ws1_north.script': 10.8 ms

---------- Compile stats ----------

Memory usage:

Strings: 43, 5168 bytes

Statements: 19711, 394220 bytes

Functions: 1182, 120092 bytes

Variables: 85972 bytes

Mem used: 1090904 bytes

Static data: 2277552 bytes

Allocated: 2803160 bytes

Thread size: 7068 bytes

map bounds are (5230.0, 2917.0, 3081.0)

max clip sector is (326.9, 182.3, 192.6)

54 KB passage memory used to build PVS

14 msec to calculate PVS

239 areas

544 portals

12 areas visible on average

7 KB PVS data

[Load AAS]

loading maps/ws1_north.aas48

[Load AAS]

loading maps/ws1_north.aas96

Keeping maps/ws1_north.aas32

[Load AAS]

loading maps/ws1_north.aas100

Keeping maps/ws1_north.aas_rat

No running thread for RestoreScriptObject(), creating new one.

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1317 msec to load ws1_north