To jump back in a minute...I have Q4 and I really enjoyed it...I felt it was pretty good with the various objectives and the times of team play worked pretty well. It sure had it's moments and I'm afraid to say that in parts (dealing with rocket shooting spiders mainly, I had to go for 'god' but the rest I played it out myself. In fact, I'm stuck in the last part on my way to escape in mech machine trying to deal with mech spider...keep getting killed I've tried several times, ducking below under pillers, etc. and shooting up at it..so far I've failed every time! I also really enjoyed HL2 a lot...just fell in love (so to speak) later with the antlions, LOL The dune buggy rides and airship were lots of fun moments for sure! I made it through all that one straight up..of course I have to play easier modes but that's OK too. I bought EP1 but have not installed it yet...got envolved with other games mostly. I bought Paraworld and that was pretty neat...some good gameplay in that one and graphics were pretty decent too! However, I wasn't able to finish it due to difficulty of play in 14th level..and I think there are 15 but something was supposed to trigger a 16 level of somekind of happenig but I have no idea what that's about. As much as I did get out of the game however, I was glad I did get to play it. I've been playing Doom/DukeNukum since they first came out and that's what got me hooked on FPS's. I just wished they've been able to get Duke Forever out...loved his quips! I also bought a long time ago a pinball game that had a table with his style of items interwoven into it and was fun to play...name was "Balls of Steel" and pretty well done as were the other tables in it also. Ahhh..memories, heh.