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Interesting albeit flawed reply. Anyway it's moved on from there. Deal with it mate.

I'm really going to have to get these then. The problem is playing older games now. I can't play XBox games anymore since getting the 360 and HDTV. But you guys have got me intrigued... http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/857266/Thi...ck/Product.html Doesn't seem to be Thief Gold though.

I still want a huge city to explore. Have you read the eurogamer stuff on this game? http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64920

Just in case you missed the other reply Bukary mate.

Will do New Horizon. So the level design was far more open, and a lot larger in the other Thief games Bukary? Were there many different ways to complete a mission then? I remeber I briefly played a Thief 1 level years ago, but at the time I liked MGS. Much to my regret now.

No.

What else is? As said earlier I consider personally, The Cradle from Thief 3 to be one of the best levels in a game ever. Not mainly for the design, but the atmosphere. Truely special. It beats SIlent Hill 3&4 hands down, and that's just one level.

I have a fairly powerful machine so hopefully it won't be too much of a problem. That pic you linked to does look very sterile and angular. Will have to see it in actual play. The missions for Thief DS are a lot more linear then 1&2 aren't they?

Excellent Bukary. Will download them for sure then. But does loading time depend on the power of the actual machine?

I was being silly. To tell you the truth I am unsure about the vibe of the forums, whether they are light hearted or serious. It is childish that comment I made. And I apologise. Sometimes I feel like my back is up against the wall here and I resort to what the great Japanese sword saint Miyamoto Musashi says with regards to dealing with multiple oponents. I have to check the graphics card at home. So loading is the only issue? Surely the more powerful the system, then shouldn't be affected by the loading times so much?

I have Pentium 4, 3.2 Ghz, 512 MBram, and ATI graphics card. I also use the tweak guides: http://www.tweakguides.com/TDS_1.html SHould this be enough for running textures etc at best resolution. My graphics card is the one for the laptop stuff.

What specs are your system? I have a fairly powerful laptop at home. It's nice to see Garrett in his full glory.

Thank you my friend Domarius. I will. I still think the Cradle is one of the best levels ever in a video game. It's even more cool then Silent Hill. I think I'll leave this thread to be. The others can hurl abuse at me if they want. Sound like a proper martyr don't I I ordered brand new factory sealed Thief 3, for £6.89 incl p&p. Will play through it agian in both perspectives, and with John P's texture pack. Can you point me to any reccomended fan missions? I found this: http://www.shadowdarkkeep.com/fmarchive.htm any of them reccomended?

Got to mate. Name calling has to be replied with name calling, so does stupidity.

Blooming hell mate. I never said that it was or wasn't, I'm just unsure from my gaming experiences. You realise that ZylonBane has set everyone, myself mainly down this path, has extracted himself from this thread covertly and is laughing to himself and the product of his prattishness?

As I said I took ZylonBane's one personally, not anyone elses, and I was making a comparison, not a generalisation, as not all American teenagers are spoitl. Good for you if you're an American. Pity you obviously can't accept other people's opinions just like ZylonBane. Good thing Domarius and some of the others can. Ombrenuit, we were having a proper discussion about 3rd person modding, difficulty etc until it got sidetracked. Obviously there are a lot of jerks on these forums, you included mate. It's good to see that some of the folk from a certain country getting defensive and taking the whole thing personally, then changing it to race etc. I apologise to the good people from that country who've added to this topic in a thoughtful and nonabusive manner.

He's ? : OR: P.S. Just teasing.

Gaming is personal choice with regards to what you play, but Enter the Matrix for me was completely dire pap. Atari obviously hadn't given enough time for Shiny to do a proper job. The only action/fighting sort of game where 3rd person has been well incorporated is Ninja Gaiden. Even then some people had difficulty with the camera and it's view. For slower moving games, such as MGS, SC, and Hitman, the 3rd person is better implemented. A game like Virtua Fighter where the area of combat is small and a larger view of it is applied it's also good.

You're obviously a bored student with more time on his hands ZylonBane, then I have... Good points demagogue, but all I wanted to know was how to mod for the 3rd person view. I have had problems with GoldenEye and old Doom games with motion sickness. I still like Halo, Deus Ex etc. It went onto the subject of difficulty, which isn't want I originally wanted for the thread. It just ended up like that. I personally would like a 3rd person stealth game, which can have the option of FP, which basically was like Thief, Splinter Cell and Tenchu, but it's basis in Thief style environments with one huge city to explore. But that's for me to mod or for some company to do. I hope Eidos do something good with the Thief licence. They've said they may do a more modern setting with a new protagonist, but what makes the games for me is Garrett. That slightly bored Harrison Ford in BladeRunner voiceover, whhen Garrett speaks or sets the scene for the mission has more charm then most games have in their entire duration.

Overall gameplay aspect, I'm not 100% convinced. It's easier to aim and get a more accurate hit in FP, unless 3rd person is auto aim. I found Thief DS FP on the hardest setting a lot easier then SC:PT on the hardest setting. Having said that Halo 2 on Legendary which I finished was very tough. So I'm not truely sure.

You guys directed the thread in that easier etc discussion. I never did, I was merely talking about a third person aspect, and it's implementation.

Fair enough. But when you were saying: "It's just that, as long as you continue to discuss and defend your point of view, so we shall ours - which is; Third person mode makes the game easier." It appears you were including ZylonBane with that comment. I was never talking about harder or easier withh rgards to 3rd person, merely stating that it's an option. I never fully accepted FP from when I used to play GoldenEye and suffered motion sickness. I even had it to begin with Halo, but the pace is a lot slower and I could adjust quite easily, as with Deus Ex and Half Life2. I have taken nothing except what ZylonBane says personally as if you've read many of his, so called, contributions they have been rather rude, and thus can only conclude he's a jerk, as the Americans would say.

Listen, I am merely replying to the constant name calling and derogoratory remarks by ZylonBane. Has he got anything to do with the mod, or is he just a tool? I was as said earlier saying that 3rd person is a popular option as exemplified by MGS and SC. You've taken it personally aswell as an attck on the mod which will be FP, which I was not doing it as. As for the Japanese thing, I was saying that gaming is huge in Japan and it's the place where many of the console companies have to crack. True it's not PC gaming but just pointing out, that the Japanes don't accept the FP viewpoint as well as Westerners do. And I know FPS people don't accept the 3rd person. It's called having an opinion and discussing it. It's good to be serious about your mod, gaming etc but not to the point of becoming unhumorous and uncivil too.

Don't see the point in talking about Monkey Island, day of the Tentacle and all the other point and click adventure game stuff in a thread about 3rd person modding. I've been playing games since 1981 with Atari, the Commodore, then Sega and Nintendo, aswell as Microsoft and Sony, aswell as the occasional PC game here and there. You're just a little brat, who can't win a conversation, and therefore resort to name calling, using some code of honour for pc gaming as an excuse for your pedantic, petty retorts.

Whereas you fight like a girl. Therefore you're a bitch