ok. i got the mesh. ill completely rebuild the mesh from scratch, using this model as a ref thats all, this one is not very optimized. so i want to model him completely without having to log back in here, and do this back and forth. i also think mitten hands wont cut back on the poly count much. this guy has 5 fingers and less than 5500 tris. its at 5489 tri with no hat model. im going to budget for 5500 i can go less. but ill leave some head room [so 5 fingers plus hat at 5500 tris. ] will he be talking? will he need seperate eyeballs [he doesnt have any right now. thanks.