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Ok I've gone from computer to computer in my office voting for your band. Yup, that's at least 15 votes for your band Fugato!

Video games are abusing the mentally retarded now! Have they no shame? Japan eh?! That explains it!

Nothing wrong with being 'inspired' by something someone else created. As this Mod can attest to...

Or "A compilation of things oDDity despises". But maybe that's too big a field for one forum.

Happy 12th birthday Unstoppable.

I think you just disproved your own point with that forced and ridiculous made up 'scenario'. Having to kill an enemy to protect your clan has been going on since the dawn of man - no one has ever had to rape someone, be racist or abuse a child to 'save the day'. Setting your game in such a forced scenario as 'you belong to an obscure religion which states that you first have share intimate bodily fluids with someone before killing them' just wouldn't be believable, has nothing to do with 'saving the day', and shows why killing is accepted in video games while rape is not.

Wow, video games are in hot water this week: Game pulled over Bulger complaint We must harness this new found controversy for the Dark Mod.

Yes, oDDity, but the point is that the kind of killing and violence seen in video games isn't 'murder' as society sees it. I can't think of a game (besides Manhunt and Manhunt 2, above) where murdering people is the sole purpose of the game. In pretty much every game we're told that the player is the force of 'good' against 'evil' - we know killing can sometimes be right (fighting the Nazis in WWII for example) - and it is in this sort of situation that the player frequently finds himself in a video game. If they were just murder simulators most people would feel morally uncomfortable, and probably bored, just as they would with a child abuse simulator and rape simulator. So these aren't 'murder simulators', they're 'saving the day' simulators. It lets you enjoy the violence without feeling morally wrong - like punching Hitler! There's also a measure of skill that comes with these games that many people find appealing.

Pfff... you're as bad as the religious nitwits you claim to loathe. Violence comes naturally to animals and there's nothing wrong with enjoying it. Of course it can't be allowed in real life but if you can simulate it what exactly is the harm? Is this forum as an 'argument simulator' a bad thing just because you wouldn't be as rude as you are to people here in real life? In fact the whole reason people enjoy violent games and films is that they can get their animal urges out of their system so they don't feel inclined to do it in real life. So in a way playing violent games probably makes you less violent. How come Japan has less censorship... yet almost no crime? Compare that to very religious ststes in America where they suppress everything and the murder rate goes through the roof.

My point was that if violent, dumb games were banned Thief would never have been given the green light, because that's what it was before it morphed by accident into a stealth game. And what would be next? Ban sports because it's dumb to run around in shorts kicking a ball into a net?

Making video games wouldn't be a very profitable exercise if 90% of what your produce is likely to be banned. You can't always plan a good game - Thief is a good example of a game that was meant to be a dull hack-n-slash game, but changed at the last moment beacuse the swordfighting didn't work and just happened to be any good.

It's us against the chav children now OrbWeaver. Better just to get rid of them the second they're born I say.

Is oDDity on the BBFC board?

They wouldn't operate on a persons appendix on the way to the hospital. The operation takes about an hour and is done under anesthetic. It's the only big hospital in the area. And they removed my brother's appendix last year so I knew they could do it. It was 5am and there weren't any other cars on the road (this is rural Wales remember) so a crash was unlikely. You can't go over 40-50mph on those roads anyway. There weren't any people to have to move aside at that time of morning or traffic lights to obstruct me on the way there. The hospital didn't offer to send an ambulance over so it seems that they agreed with me.

Well if I call and 'emergency car' they have to go from A to B then back to A. But if I drive I just have to go from B straight to A. Unless they go twice as fast as I do, which is unlikely on narrow roads around here, I shall win the race.

My opinion of having a car has see-sawed in the last two days. On Saturday I had to pay £1600 to get my car back on the road, and was thinking 'why the hell do I own a car?'. But yesterday my mam's apendix exploded and I had to rush her to hospital at 5am. So now I'm thinking 'thank God I own a car'.

You could get a lot of Dark Mod work done with 30 days confined in your home. I order you all to go out drunk driving.

Why do people care so much about celebrities? Let us spend six forum pages discussing this question.

Not until Sony release the long-awaited Madeleine McCann kidnap simulator.

Heh this thing is the second top headline on the BBC 10 o' clock news here. You have the G8, Iraq, Darfur to talk about... but nooooo, let's talk about a computer game.

You don't want the Church of England complaining that you've inspired thieves to break in to their buildings!

Я не могу поговорить русского!

So the Dark Mod is doomed!

IT'S NOT A TRICK IF YOU TELL THEM HOW IT'S DONE