Arumakani

I just don't see the point in it, except the engine being showcased...

Anyone tried this free game? It's only about 40 mins long though... http://www.download.com/Penumbra/3000-7504...tml?tag=lst-0-1 screens: http://penumbragame.com/images/screens/060425/screen03.jpg http://penumbragame.com/images/screens/060425/screen12.jpg http://penumbragame.com/images/screens/060...creenhunter.jpg

Cool man. I'll make sure it doesn't happen.

BAHAHAHA... You're so frickin funny.

That's cool. I keep telling sparhawk I'm new to modding, which is true. Whereabouts in the Doom3 PC CD rom stuff is the editor? I finally managed to obtain a pre-owned copy for £9.99 and got The Movies for free

You being hostile?

Someone on the OXM forums in the UK said they can configure me one with a top notch ATI graphics card for £800

Well I want to play games as efficiently as possible with the best specs, for the next 2 to 3 years.

I was going to get it from them, but can't be arsed with building it. I can do stuff without keboard, mouse and monitor. Can use my Toshiba HDTV and a spare keyboard etc. Which one of these then Dave? http://3xs.scan.co.uk/Category.asp?SystemMasterCategoryID=20

Want to buy a new computer for under £850 but willing to go upto £1000. It should run Doom3 at full specs, aswell as any Unreal 3 engined game. Should also have no probs with Crytek's Crysis. 2 places I'm looking at are: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/systems.aspx or http://www.goldenelectronics.co.uk/ Any help would be cool.

So what was it?

Fair enough with regards to the engine, however, a time when games aren't complex are really for retro gaming or handhelds/mobile phone stuff. Halo for instance especially on the harder settings, shows how much good AI for enemies has really progressed. Half Life has shown how story telling in a FPS has progressed. We only have to look at Thief or Deus Ex, even Oblivion to see how complex the genre for FP games have begun. Doom3 is really a no brainer game.

Doom3 is without a doubt one of the most boring games out there. FOrget about the progress of FPS shooters with Half Life and Halo. Even Far Cry. This is a step back in gaming. All credit to ID though. They did say it was a remake of the original game. It's just lazy to not have better enemies then mindless monsters though.

That Bruce Ekel thing i can't seem to get it working. Any tips?

BlackThief, that would be cheating if a Thief was using those hover pod things P.S. Off topic, but been playing the Thief DS fan mission called the Bridge. Absolutely brilliant. Good intro sequence too.

So it'll be possible to do a Thief Style game with large outdoor environments with that sdk? Interesting. I've always wished for a huge city to explore Garrett style, but with more areas with secrets etc. Oblivion but one huge city with parks, and loads more people like a proper city, and hence more pickpocketing

So can you mod for either Quake Wars or Quake 4?

Hmmm...I think the speedtree technology they use in Oblivion is very good. Wouldn't Quake 4 if it using more advanced Doom3 stuff produce better outdoor stuff than Doom3?

I think they use their own physics engine. The outdoor stuff is good. Thing is it'll require a very powerful Vista computer anyway, so not much scope for most folk to begin with. It's quite interesting though how Doom3, Unreal 3 etc are good looking for indoor or dark environments, whereas HL2 and FarCry are better for outdoor stuff.

Some odd reason I trust your opinion here the most with regards technical stuff. Any others who know their stuff too, please comment.

Please check the second link I edited in and look at the high def footage and tell me what you think. t's supposed to be one of the first games for Windows Vista.

Check the pics and vid clips here buddy: http://pc.ign.com/objects/694/694190.html Better non offscreen high def footage here, have to scroll down though: http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=2509

Doesn't Quake 4 use Doom3 engine? Also have you seen the footage for Crysis. Looks as if everything is there.

Purely hypothetically speaking sparhawk, of all the engine's available at the moment including Unrel3 and the Crytek, Crysis engine which would you choose for doing the Dark Mod if you were starting up now?

So the best engine to mod for a Thief style game is Doom 3 in your opinion?