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How is this system works with 2handed weapons? I've just remembered that animation process of two handed weapon in 3dsmax is quite different from animating 1handed (you need to make weapon as parent for both hands IKs). Springheel, Link doesn't work, maybe I don't have access to that place. Btw, how can I find these anims ("draw" and "idle_alert") you've mentioned? I want to try to make some combat anims if my "incompatibility" with maya don't kill all free time I have now.))

squill, Thats strange, I didn't touch head skin weigths, it must be the same like it was in ascottk's rig. Thanks for controls. Yes, that switch could be useful too, in some anims when you need linear hand translation, like drawing a sword from sheath.

Where can I find it? So if I get it right, I just need to animate hand grabbing the sword and drawing it from sheath, and TDM animation system automaticaly switch the parent in needed time? If it need to be redone I want to try it, but I probably don't know all the rituals... Can someone who know it, post it here?

squill, can you make these controls for the tweaked rig I post in this thread? http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showtopic=7259 So we have one standard and to not make skin job on two rigs istead of only one. Its still ascottk's rig, but with model tweaked to more closely match the bones.

I wanted to make anim of guard switcing his pose to combat and taking the sword from sheath, but I dont get how to force this parent constraint in MB or Maya work smooth. There is a MB tut by Oddyty, i watched it, its all easy and clear in it. All but that parent/child part. In 3dsmax there is a link controller which is pretty easy to understand. In this case you just select sword bone, then adding link controller to it, and in link controller you point two parents (sheath bone(weight=100) and hand bone(weight=0)). Then in right time, when arm reaches and grabs sheathed sword you key weights change (sheath(weight=0) and hand(weight=100)) and sword bone is now a child of a hand bone. And its NOT JUMP to hand. Then you can animate the arm taking the sword from sheath. Can someone please describe this procedure in MB and Maya in a manner like I did it for max? And what exactly (bone or something) I need to parent, and to what?

Thats strange, I didn't even touch "chainmail" mesh, and only lower part of "tunic" Yes, I've already learn that, but still thanks, and any advices of that kind are very apreciated, coz I still can't use all maya functionality needed. True, but it's not only about that, I think. If I didn't miss something that obvious to all of you, guys (by my low level knowledge of maya or by language barrier), this new rig also allows to aviod double work, when there is any need in precise hand animation for example. Coz for some complex type of animations, finetuning is may be realy equal to double work. And precise animation could be a way too hard when bones are not match mesh.

Last rig update (some skin problems fixed): http://www.examplesngm.nm.ru/AnimRef_ngm3.rar Ascottk, can you describe what settings exactly you used when importing to fbx? And what tweaking you made in MB after it? My results are quite different from yours, and maybe not so comfortable to animate, I don't know. squill, I didn't move joints. I moved only vertices of model instead. Maybe thats why it looks like another idle anim. And actually thats why I asked to test it - its unusual to me to tweak model to match skeleton, not viceversa, and I didn't know if this method is working. PS What's is the sword cube for? Can I move it freely when setup rig? And can I move the "sword" joint to align it and it's rotational axes to "shortsword" mesh? Or it can ruin something?

Can someone test this rig if it compatible with previous anims Its the same rig made by ascottk but with skin and some model tweaking so it more closely match skeleton. http://www.examplesngm.nm.ru/AnimRef_ngmod2.rar

Can someone test this rig if it compatible with previous anims? Its the same rig made by ascottk but with skin and some model tweaking so it more closely match skeleton. http://www.examplesngm.nm.ru/AnimRef_ngmod.rar

Last 3 months? No i don't have them.

I'm not. It's just was no response on anims, so i didn't know if they ok or not. Then I have no time and finaly, forgot about visiting this place So there IS new rig? If it's true and it's cool it can greatly speed up animation process (at least for me), so I can contribute more, no matter how much free time I have. Yes, I've mentioned about this problem in contributor's thread:

Didn't expexted such reaction on my anim. Thanks! New Horizon, It's ok. As for that email, I can resend it but except another sample, it's not much difference from what I've already writed.That sample: gun it's only animation there is mine. Model author Georg Destroy georg.destroy@gmail.com Domarius, Learning of new instruments doesn't scare me but it'll take some time. I've already downloaded MB tutor from your wiki. And I've never met with D3 engine before (as developer) so It may take time too. Springheel Well Thief1/2 came to me about only 8 month ago and it cath me in spite of it old grafics. You know, it's many games to compare today... Don't know I just want it. May be there is strong motivation in Thief for me. Well at least for now it is. Maybe when it leave me I'll disappear like other animators. But that doesn't mean I'm such inconstant person, just don't like to give promises. And while I can (it's almost the same with while I want) I want to help this mod in what I can. All is simple. Besides, it's good place to start my portfolio (to add a little cynicism). Maya 7.0, MotionBuilder 6.

Ok I'll be waiting for task prayer its that animation, I've mentioned above

Hi I writed you at recruiting@thedarkmod.com about week ago, with no reaction. Maybe my message lost or is it because of lack of samples. But I'm still a big fan of Thief and still want to help in what I can. Just don't know if you read that email. I didn't met such necessety of assembling portfolio before. So as I writed earlier it's not much i can show you. More of that, I don't even know what to think and what to say about my level as animator (problems with selfidentification ), so I don't pretend on something extraordinary... anyway it will be more clear through the process. Again, it's not much time I can spend on this, it's only a hobby for me, but it's one of the favorites. As for my skills.. 3dsmax: IK, Biped, Physique, particles, simple modelling and texturing.. Photoshop. Maya (a little), mostly simple modelling. I've attached another sample with this post. It's just a short prayer animation i made yesterday for one person making mod for Morrowind. At least it fresh ...strange, attachment isn't working..