[Why so long?]

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I believe you can look in tdm_installer logs or game console (at least on the latest dev build) to see which URL is used.

I can't see url's in the game console

[ARM64 Support?]

Use a .cfg cvar for running in a window

Then it's debugger time for you

[ARM64 Support?]

@wootyOh dear, I just realized. This is probably the same bug I hit earlier this year

It does not like two 'darkmod' in the file path. Try renaming the parent folder to something like 'tdm'

[ARM64 Support?]

22 minutes ago, wooty said:

@stgatilov I followed the readme.md conan instructions and was able to build all dependencies and compile "thedarkmod.custom". I navigated back to my base directory and into the newly populated darkmod folder. Running TDM gave me an error about "default.cfg" not being found, so I dropped the one from the source directory into the root of the TDM folder. Running again gives me a "Can't open journal files" and "Sys_Error: _default material not found" as a result.

I feel I am just missing some files that need to be manually placed, or something of that nature.

 

Do you have the game itself installed? It needs all the assets naturally

Here's a partial screenshot of the file content

[ARM64 Support?]

1 hour ago, wooty said:

@duzenko Heres some on the fly bogompis like tests, need to run phoronix test suite later.

sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 --threads=1 run

CPU speed:     events per second:   780.44
 General statistics:     total time:   10.0002s     total number of events:   7807
 Latency (ms):     min:  1.28     avg:  1.28     max:  1.36     95th percentile:  1.30     sum:  9997.18
 Threads fairness:     events (avg/stddev):   7807.0000/0.00     execution time (avg/stddev):   9.9972/0.00

sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 --threads=16 run

CPU speed:     events per second:   12331.51
 General statistics:     total time:   10.0013s     total number of events:   123371
 Latency (ms):     min:   1.27     avg:   1.30     max:   2.60     95th percentile:   1.44     sum:   159944.14
 Threads fairness:     events (avg/stddev):   7710.6875/241.13     execution time (avg/stddev):   9.9965/0.00

glmark2 Score: 4500+-

Respectfully, that's a lot of numbers but no flops

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I've been working on this for months and I am starting the benchmark phase.

I'd benchmark that on day 1 and that might as well have saved those months, LOL

Maybe just run any web benchmark?

[ARM64 Support?]

42 minutes ago, wooty said:

HoneyComb LX2K

What's your estimate on single-thread FLOPS there? I'm kinda skeptical on its speed, considering it's 16 cores and passively cooled

EDIT I can see on some pictures it has a tiny cooler, but still looking like a 20-30W max. Something to drive a file server.

[ARM64 Support?]

I think we're missing the static libs for ARM @stgatilov

Your contribution to fix this will be very much welcome however I'm curious what's the make and model of your computer? Is this some kind of a server?

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

17 hours ago, HMart said:

oh yes a good internal ssd or even a nvem/M.2 ssd can be fast even with preload on, but I have the game in a external USB 3.0 2.5 HDD, so preload may impact me more I assume. 

Preload is definitely preferred for HDDs

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

On 8/20/2021 at 2:13 AM, HMart said:

I bet you guys already know this but if you don't, just for kicks I set image_preload 0 and image_useCompression 0 and the missions I tried load way quicker! Is obvious why but I underestimated how impactful this options were!

And I didn't felt any performance loss from it. I hope this is true for all! 

It seems I will play with those off going forward.  

Btw I also found that using preload 0 and compression ON, causes the game to start with no textures for a few micro seconds, similar to some UE3 games! TDM is now among the big league engines! ;D kd

Is not a big problem and the same happens with compression off but for a lower time, unfortunately, the game has visible pauses, when opening doors and the game as to load and compress the textures on the fly. 

 

edit: I didn't played the latest version with stgatilov new RGTC compressor in SIMD, so things could be different on it. 

With uncompressed assets on ssd it's quite fast but then again full preload is not too slow either

[Dark mod 2.07 shadows issue]

2 minutes ago, nbohr1more said:

Try r_useGLSL 0

Something about uniform transforms maybe too?

[Dark mod 2.07 shadows issue]

12 minutes ago, OrbWeaver said:

Intel HD 3000 officially supports DirectX 10.1 and OpenGL 3.1, according to Intel. This should be enough, surely? I thought we required OpenGL 3.0.

3.1 for 2.08
3.3 for 2.09
Afair

But in reality i did a quick test with 2.08 and intel 2000/3000. Regret the drivers for that chip are utter garbage.

[Dark mod 2.07 shadows issue]

Sorry, no support for Intel bugs here

Your options

• go further back to 2.06
• search the beta thread for 2.07 for new rendering cvars
• make sure you have the latest drivers for HD 3000 on Intel website (not the laptop producer's)
• consider trading up on your hardware

Sincere condolences on your GPU

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

1 hour ago, MirceaKitsune said:

Will keep it in mind. IIRC though that means the game will stutter whenever an object with a previously unloaded texture comes into view, so I'd likely get slowdowns during the game instead.

The current svn performs quite well actually

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

2 hours ago, MirceaKitsune said:

This is really great! Any noticeable difference in loading time too? That's one of the main aspects I was interested in, TDM still has some really long load times compared to many other engines.

Try image_preload 0

[How does the "ignore user" function work?]

Shit, Kurshok, I'm almost sorry for you now

You clearly can't control yourself, it's now matter of time when you commit that suicide-by-moderator

It's like watching a propane can in fire

I wish I could say something to trigger you and end the pain

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

39 minutes ago, stgatilov said:

Yes, it makes sense.
But make sure to disable it woth in HandleCompression and in SelectInternalFormat.

Huh, it seems I was wrong about that

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I'd say we can probably refactor SelectInternalFormat into two parts: the one which is O(1) and return format without any analysis, and the one which can additionally check the image data for final internal format. In this case I'd call the first function in HandleCompression instead of writing the same conditions again.

Also a good idea

[Hidden Hands: Initiation (27/12/2018)]

This mission is regretfully under-optimised

E.g. this window lacks a visportal

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

7 minutes ago, OrbWeaver said:

If I understand correctly, the advantage of doing RGTC compression in software is performance, because it can be done in parallel rather than image-by-image on the GPU?

If so, I guess any testing should focus on performance (particularly the time to load a new mission from scratch), rather than GPU memory usage which should be the same whether RGTC compression is done in software or by OpenGL.

With dynamic image loading driver-side compression is just too slow and results in stuttering

Even if not used widely ATM it's already technologically superior

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

@stgatilovI think we want to ignore image_useCompression here

It has been only affecting non-normal textures before AFAIR

[Convert normal maps to RGTC?]

Compression on, 0.7GB VRAM used

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Compression off, 0.9GB VRAM used

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Spoiler

FFS what's going on with image hosting links?

 

[Why so long?]

Our download servers SUCK

I'm on 200Mbit connection. Downloading a 500+MB mission takes forever with average speed of 1.6Mbit. Is it all mirrors or a particular one that I keep getting routed to?

[Hidden Hands: The Lost Citadel (23/07/2020)]

10 minutes ago, JackFarmer said:

@duzenko

 

I would not call it campaign, one missions just leads to events in the next mission and so on...

However, the order is:

I - Initiation

II - Vitalic Fever

III - The Lost Citadel

IV - The Anomaly

As far as I recall, each mission notes section in the relevant DM menu  includes a list with the order up to the released mission.

I hope you will have fun with my missions!

Here's how it looks in GUI

I think it should be H..H.. 1, 2, 3, 4

 

[Hidden Hands: The Lost Citadel (23/07/2020)]

@JackFarmerI'm about to start the campaign (it's a campaign, right?)

Is there a particular order of missions or they're isolated episodes? If the former, please consider renaming them with numbers like other campaigns did

[Any plans to get the game on Steam ?]

3 hours ago, Abusimplea said:

Obviously, nobody living in any western country (like me) would ever do that - except when he is either filthy rich or a lawyer specialized in copyright law...

It is too risky for the generic dude living in a free democratic country where a single copyright law suit can ruin your life - even if you win in the end.

Any Taliban members here?

[Any plans to get the game on Steam ?]

12 hours ago, cabalistic said:

This unfortunately misses the point a bit. The problem is not the open source license, per se, the problem is that Valve requires (or at least required?) a legal party or entity that is responsible for the app/game. So if any legal challenges about TDM (e.g. assets that we did not actually have permission to include) reach the Steam platform, Valve can offload them to the legal entity. But TDM doesn't have a natural legal entity, and so far no individual has stepped forward to take on that role. Nor would I advise anyone to, because it is potentially tricky and not without risk.

I imagine this is going to be similar for any other store, as well. And that's why there has not been any progress in getting TDM on Steam or any other store, and I don't think that's likely to change.

That's what I don't get

Can anyone fork TDM (code and assets) and release it in Steam on their behalf?