STiFU
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Is it normal, that the normal D3 surface sounds don't work without a further setup either? I have a material like this and the sound is never altered when I step onto my surfaces:
textures/darkmod/wood/panels/tiling_1d/trim_small_precious_001
{
wood
qer_editorimage textures/darkmod/wood/panels/trim_small_precious_001_tiling1d_ed.tga
diffusemap textures/darkmod/wood/panels/trim_small_precious_001_tiling1d.tga
bumpmap textures/darkmod/wood/panels/trim_small_precious_001_tiling1d_local.t
ga
}
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I prefer to work on a low poly level from the beginning. On the one hand it's cleaner and on the other, it's much easier to optimize it later on. Also I think over all you still save some time, 'cause you woun't run into nasty problems that could possibly be caused by such a triangle reducing feature.
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There is a german version of Doom 3? I'd be suprised about that. I thought Doom 3 was placed on the index the day it was released...
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Seriously Unstoppable. Get yourself a project or something. Ok, it's nice to have a "conversation" here, but if you invested as much time into gamedevelopment as you invest into meaningless topics and posts, you could create a game or at least a mission for TDM on your own easily.
Anyway, that poll only consists of 3 options, which is way too less. I for my self would vote for call of duty 4.
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Forget DXIW for a moment and consider 2 games which, whilst being better than average, have disappointed big time and which were both helmed by guys that looked like they knew what they were doing: BioShock and TDS.
Now there we got a confrontation again, because I liked bioshock...
Maybe it wasn't as complex as System Shock, but the atmosphere and story (maybe sometimes a little too predictable) was great, as well as the overall graphics and leveldesign. Also the german synchronisation was suprisingly good in my oppinion, although so many said the english version was so much better.But sparhawk is right again. You learn from every media. If you read a paper, watch TV, or play a game, what's the difference? Ok, the information in a game are mostly of less quality than the other medias' and TV information is also of less quality than paper's. From this context one could agree with oddity, because gaming servers the least quality information of the named categories and could be acknowledged a waste of time. BUT on this train of thought I made a little mistake. Isn't the classification of quality information subjective? Yes, it is! For sparhawk a hockey game is understandably more than entertainment like he pointed out and for all of us every first person game is more than entertainment (though not every game is entertaining
), because we play in an analytic way and learn more and more about leveldesign, texturing and all, which is important to most of us. -
I guess it's the integrated aimbot...
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Thievery was awfull. Actually the only good multiplayer stealth game was Splinter Cell, but that is already too intense. You could feel and hear your heart beating when you played that game. I could never play it longer than two rounds...
Stealth is just not that suitable for multiplayer. -
I got the list already from your wiki, but thanks anyway. That link you posted is very helpfull, so thanks again...
For quake 3 there was a neat tool for creating the materials, called Quake 3 Arena Shader Editor (Q3ASE), with a proper preview and all. I wonder whether the author could be bothered to lay open the source to us, so someone could add the doom specific features to it? Q3ASE enhanced my working with q3 shaders very much, because this way you can just learn by doing...
The best thing would of course be to integrate such functions into DarkRadiant, since you got the preview already implemented and would only have to write an interface for creating the materials and a function to reload all or just the changed materials in DR. (Keep in mind that I am not demanding anything here, it's just a gentle suggestion, which in my oppinion would enhance DR to a great amount)About that full bright thing, I actually had a very similar solution and now I realized that it was just the preview that didn't work. I should test things ingame more often...
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So for my testing purposes I should just switch to High detail and leave those TGAs out, I guess. Ok then, thanks for you answers. But you should really clarify this informations a little closer in the wiki, so that this question might never arrose again...
And I got a new question already. Is there something like a shader manual for Doom 3, similar to the one for quake 3? I googled, but couldn't find anything. I need to know the parameters for the material files, especially the ones to create a full-bright material, like a lit window or a skybox. I know there is a special technique for the skybox, but it should be possible to create a full bright material anyway, shouldn't it?
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I actually played Dark Messiah as a warrior and after that as a thief and it wasn't much harder to kill the chieftain then. Maybe they altered the difficulty of him... But yeah, it's a real shame they didn't release the editor for DM, it could'Ve resulted in some fabulous FMs.
I think the reason why most of those ninja games are in 3rd person is, because they mostly involve a lot of jump and run elements, which are hard to do in first person for many players, at least for those who don't come from quake 3 trickjumping...
Also, it's much cooler to see the moves those ninjas actually do. In the end, a game like that is mostly for martial arts fanatics, who want to see how their Ninja rapes the enemies. On that note, I recently saw some preview gameplay footage of Ninja Gaiden II. Ok, there is nothing with stealth here, but I found it so hilarious that I had to share it with you... Perfect example for the dumb-factor of console games!Anyway, I liked the Splinter Cell series, I loved the Hitman series and if thief 4 was some kind of mix of these 3 gametypes I must admit, that I'd play it...
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I'll take it!!
Still, it's not like I dislike any FPS, it's rather that I need to see real innovations. Maybe I just played HL2 way too late. I really enjoyed Prey, and you can imagine why. That game was really innovative, as was Portal, which can hardly be acknowledged a first person shooter though. Neither a FPS but a genre close TPS was Gears of war, which absolutely rocked my world, no matter it is a big console title. I played it through twice. This game is rather simple either, but it's a whole different experience in coop, besides its architectural beauty, massive graphics and evil characters. (Let's forget the crappy story for a moment) 
If you hate console games like I normally do, I'd still give this shooter a chance.So as a conclusion let's just say we demand different things of a Shooter...
And I must support Oddity's oppinion as well. If there will be a thief 4, it'll be bad, because of the consolisation, which in my eyes means nothing more than simplifying every gameplayelement to that extend that every nut can finish the game without any problems in a couple of hours, or days.
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Ok, then I misunderstood "repository". I thought it was just a place to store the highres textures for future alterations. But you still need the specular map as a TGA on Ultra High. I just tested it... Don't want to picky, but I wrote a little replacement for the list...
On Ultra High Doom 3 uses uncompressed textures (TGA) only, but on lower settings it looks for compressed files first and uses those instead.
- Diffusemaps: DDS (DXT1/DXT3) and TGA (can be RLE-compressed)
- Normalmap: TGA
- Specularmap: DDS (DXT1) and TGA
- Editor Image: JPG (not over-compressed)
Remember to put the compressed dds files into the dds/textures/.../[texturegroup] folder and the uncompressed into textures/.../[texturegroup] .
At that point, a link to the Texture Folder Structure would be usefull too.
Another thought now. Since the only difference between ultra high and high detail apears to be the use of uncompressed textures, why not create a real ultra high mode, which doesn't limit us to dimensions of 1024, but 2048 instead for example. Nothing would have to be changed. The TGAs would be 2048x2048 or something like that, but the compressed only 1024x1024. Ah wait, we'd have to make a smaller normal maps as well for the lower settings then. So it would be a bit of extra work, but so damn detailed... =)
- Diffusemaps: DDS (DXT1/DXT3) and TGA (can be RLE-compressed)
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By looking a little closer at the structures I finally found the solution and it absolutely makes sense. On Ultra High you got no compression at all. Every channel is used in uncompressed tga format, so every texture-channel must be present in the default textures directory.
What a shame I didn't see that earlier. Maybe you guys should correct this also here in the wiki. Those TGAs are actually necessary... -
I used DXT3, cause it's said on the "Texture Guidelines" Wiki page to either use dxt1 or dxt3 for diffusemaps. For compressing I use the nvidia normalmap dds exporter for photoshop.
When compiling I get the following warnings:
WARNING: Couldn't load image: textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_
001
WARNING: Couldn't load image: textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_
001_s
So at least I know now that it's the dds files that don't work. They are located in the folder dds/textures/darkmod/stone/natural/ . Wiki says that there is no need to clarify that dds files are actually located in a different folder than the other files in the mtr . Please verify this. Also I found that my mtr was actually wrong, although I copypasted it from the wiki. It should say bumpmap but in the wiki it says normalmap. Better correct it here.
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Since it's just a real quick and hopyfully easy to answer question, I thought I'd post it here. I am currently playing around a little with the darkradiant but when I run my map my custom textures don't show up, altough they do in the editor's preview, with normal, specular and all. But ingame it's just all black. If I replace all with default textures it works like a charm. Any ideas how to fix this?
This is my mtr:
textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_001
{
surftype15
description "rock"
qer_editorimage textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_001_ed
diffusemap textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_001
normalmap textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_001_local
specularmap textures/darkmod/stone/natural/rock_large_holey_001_s
}
Diffuse and specular are dds (with dxt3) in the proper dds/textures-folder and editorimage/normal are jpg/tga in the textures-folder.
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Hehe, I see this is going to be a nice discussion...
I think, no one can deny that HL2 belongs to the rather trivial gaming gernre. It's just a normal first person shooter like every other featuring nothing significantly new. It was done ok, but in general games like that bore me, which again is just a question of taste... Dark Messiah in contrast gave the player a lot of different opportunities to finish a mission and there was a lot to discover, it actually felt close to thief sometimes. And that is what I like in a game. If I can never decide how to accomplish my aims, I can just go ahead and watch a movie. That is definitely not my definition of interactivity...It is the sum of the processes that makes anything, a game, vision, whatever, what it is. Trying to trivialise anything in this way is to sidestep the important point - what is the result of the sum of these sub-processes and what is the effect on you?Yeah, which is kind of the same I said: it's a question of taste. The "subjective effect" on me was, that that game didn't bring anything special and was boring, which is ending up in my trivialisation of the gameplay...
But you guys got some points about the engine. I didn't realize that the movement was linked to the engine, because of the bodyawareness. Ok, then we got the loading zones and the movement. This both sucks to the original thief fans, but I wonder whether the other potential customers could miss something they don't know.
I must admit that I actually finished Thief 3 before the other two thief titles. I only played the demo of Thief 1 and I loved it, but I couldn't buy it, because I was still too young. (I am 21 now, so you can calc back) So when I played TDS I didn't find the movement to be itchy at that point, but when I came back from T2 to TDS I absolutely hated it.
Since that game was also released for the xbox, it was presented to a mostly new targetgroup, which didn't know the thief series so far and is used to loading zones. So I guess we'd have to dig deeper for more reasons, why the game didn't sell well.
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The primary reason why Thief 3 did not sell well was because the engine was fubared. As you probably know the programmer hired to make the renderer for DX: Invisible War instead made a whole engine. He was then let go and they didn't realize the engine's limitations till halfway into Invisible War.
So you tell me that the normal customer knew (and cared) about the limitations of flesh? I sure don't think so. The original thief fans of course were pissed because of loading zones, but the other players assumably just accepted it and all of us probably didn't know the other limitations of the engine until the editor was out, which was a lot later after the original TDS release. So I say, the initial success (which is always the biggest part of the whole) of that game got nothing to do with the engine, but only with gameplay etc. . (Movement mostly, which was kinda drunken master style)
They could easily make it a money-maker though, and a good game too. Look at HL2 - a money-maker and an excellent FPS. Why? Because people bothered to spend time on perfecting it.If they just spent time on designing and writing rather than just doing it half-cocked, like TDS was, it could be great.
Well that again is just a question of taste. I prefer TDS very much over HL2. You play FPS like that through once and that's it. There's nothing that would make it worth replaying it, because it's more linear than TDS and there's nothing to explore at all. Just regular Hitboxshooting and some nice physics... wooooohoooo!
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Uhhh very nice!!!! This absolutely made my day and it started of real bad! How about a countdown on your mainpage?
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I must say that the drivers for the 8800 GTS were nothing but a disappointment... First the scaling doesn't work properly, so I can't use any other Resolution on my TFT besides the native 1680x1050. Then I tried a fix, which disables hdcp support, but no luck here either. Also when I bought this gfx card, there weren't even drivers out for it for vista and since then they didn't manage to bring up a decent driver at all... I prefer XP anyway, so that's not that much of a problem for me.
Though I must say, that I have been using the 169 driver generation since about one and a half months and I got no gfx bugs in any games, including Gears of War, CoD 4, MoH:Airborne, Stalker, which are supposed to be games that have problems with that driver. Didn't check Doom 3, Thief 2 and Timeshift though. I only had gfx bugs on some alphamaps in Soldier of Fortune 3, which is hilariously worse by the way (yes, I know I used the comparative wrong here, but it just reflects the quality of this fabulous game the best way).
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I didn't watch the Deus Ex trailer, didn't really care for (did i play 1 or 2?)
Just commenting on the Alien trailer.
That trailer has one thing that most Hollywood trailers don't have anymore. Mystery and suspense. At first you think you're looking at the moon from different angles, then you see the egg. Everybody freaks out and it's weird and errie.
But they never show the Alien. That leaves the whole movie a mystery and makes you want to see it.
Anymore all the trailers show you all of the good parts of a movie, then you see the movie and are disappointed because you've already seen the good parts. I don't understand why they do that.
I think the trailer to "I am Legend" does its job very well too. Here is a link to the streaming 720p trailer. It leaves the viewer wondering what actually happens in that movie and I became most impatient to see that movie and I really liked it, but it might not be everyone's style. Next to some written lines in the trailer, there is also a narration by the protagonist, which he is normally broadcasting via the radio, to explain at least a little of the film. So kind of a talkover, but not in a bad way.
I really loved the overall atmosphere of the film. The first glimpse at the trailer reminded me a little of the ruins in Stalker, but this movie is by far more impressive, than that crap game...
EDIT: Sorry, it's not really a 720p trailer, the uploader was just too stupid to clarify it correctly. It's just 720 horizontal, not vertikal.
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Oh my god, that is hilarious. I always thought us germans were a strict people, always sticking to bureaucracy and stuff, but what you quoted is a totally different chapter...
But then again, NCY is the melting pot, mixing a lot of different cultures, while in germany is also happening some culture mixing but not as much by far. -
That's cool. I made an Ivytexture and it looks a lot better with colored specular, so yay, I can use it now!!
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In the surface parameter list on the wiki it's said that those are the default doom 3 surface parameters, but they don't work for me either. The sound doesn't change when I walk on it...