Tels

Very cool

We definitely need a baker hat!

And lets not forget switching engines every 2..5 years ends you up like the Duke Nukem Forever project....

Uhm, well, DarkRadiant uses these def files to build the list when you click "Create entity". But if you release only a new version of DarkRadiant as stand-alone, never mind me Sorry But I am equally confused because I didn't really actually realize that these are two projects until I joined - and even now they are still quite fused in my mind as they depend so heavily on each other Actually I joined, because wanted to work on DarkRadiant so I can use that to work on DarkMod (easier). As for actually contributing to DarkRadiant, it is on my TODO. Currently I am still in the "get to know the code" phase as there is so much to learn - seems everyday I run up against another wall and need to read for some hours documentation Excuse that catching up with what you guys did the last three years isn't done in a week

Re-organizing entities display list in DarkRadiant. But please give me a day or two to complete it. In similiar news, the light also need such an re-org, it is bloody impossible to find a light texture/shader in the list now since you never can guess from their name what they actually do/look like and wether they are from doom or TDM One more entry for my todo I guess

Thanx, these will come in handy! While you are on mechanical stuff, could you do some chains one can use to "hang" lamps from the ceiling? (for swinging lamps, pls

I intend to fix the doc issue with our wiki, tho

Ah, replacing _currentRender with _scratch gives a VERY cool effect - although not what I wanted This warrants more toying around. Tels

Yes there is a _currentRender in it. With what would I need to replace this? The problem is that there is almost zero documentation on that stuff, even the official docs just list quite a lot of thing without ever explaining them Here is the best I found so far: http://www.iddevnet.com/doom3/materials.php Ah and I found this: http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic...ghlight=scratch That will come in handy..*bwahahaha

Sure: (although I didn't want to spoil the effect for others You can see behind the big one in the center, you see a corner of the small crystal on the wall. If I enable the heat haze effect (aka uncomment it), you can no longer see the edge of the smaller one through the front. It is like the surfaces at the front only draw *everyting else* behind them, but not other surfaces of the same type. The heathaze effect is what makes stuff behind the crystal "wobble" when you move around and it looks quite cool (although it is probably wrong for polishes crystal faces anyway)

A material question for the masters here I have made a material with a almost-transparent map. Following some example from ID, I used theheathaze vertex shader to distort whatever you see through the transparent material. This works great, except if there are two transparent surfaces behind each other, the first one shows everything _except_ the other one behind it. If I take out the vertex shader, the transparent surfaces stack, meaning you can see one through the other. Is this a fundamental limit with the doom engine atm, or is there some trick to it?

Iwill try it. It is amazing how little small brightness variations look stark contrast inside the game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern The pattern is created by the normal map being too regular I guess. In any event, is this texture even usefull? I am still toying around and warming up.

I used DXT5 (or at least I choose the option) but it still didn't work. Anyway, if there is a TGA file, it can always be converted later anyway. So I proudly present my first texture. It was supposed to be a canvas you can use at the back of paintings, but after seeing it in game it looks so like coarse cloth/wood twigs covered by plaster that I had to build a fake house front with it. (the wooden beams are just some stock wood texture) Current problems: * too bland * causes moire insome settings I am not quite sure how to fix these. Any tips welcome.

Hm, is there a specific requirement for the .DDS files for the normal map? I can see them just fine in DE, but doom says "cannot load image textures/tels/canvas_yellow_local". Hm, trying a .tga works, so it seems that the normal plugin of Gimp just can't create the right sort of .dds Doom3 requires.

Hah. Gimp lets you choose the compression method for DDS, and tick a box "mipmaps" but nothing else. No color weight etc. Even after juggling the paths I can't get it to work. Doom shows my material in a base yellow color (so the diffuse map seems to work), but it is transparent for lights, and doesn't have a "bumpmap". Strange. Edit: Never mind, I see them now, I was getting confused with the paths

Ok. Cool, I missed that article. I can see that we should somehow move all the messy little articles to one big tutorial. Right now every one (except maybe yours) misses some crucial detail. For instance, I didn't know I need to put the .dds into a different folder, or restart doom if I change the .mtr etc. These things really should covered in on texture tutorial - I get on it. Thanx for the tips, trying it now

Moin, I am going through the process of creating a texture for DM. After reading (and actually amending the basic tutorial and reading a few others, there are still open questions: * do we need a detail texture? Does TDM even support them yet? * In what format should I save TGA files? (Gimp does only allow you to select RLE compression or not, and if the origin should be bottom-left, but nothing else) * In what format should I save .dds files? The plugin uses a host of options like compression, format, and wether you want mipmaps generated. Edit: I managed to get my "texture" into the game, but the normal isn't working. One thing I missed is the material types. The Basic texture tutorial just skips these, and the only thing I could find on the wiki is this: http://www.thirdfilms.com/darkwiki/index.p..._Material_Types which is Doom specific. Is there somewhere a list of the different material types in TDM and their usage? I see that surftype15 is used for cloth, but for instance wallpaintings are used as "wood". Since I am making a canvas texture, I think mine should be cardbox, but I am not sure.

I prefer it, too (I guess the laser-guided and heat-seeking arrows take a bit longer to design?

God, steam, please, nooooooo *a scream trailing of into the vast darkness of the internet is heard* I _really_ refuse to authenticate to a remote server just to be allowed to play my bought (or even self-written) game. This path down lies madness. Although a bit strange sometimes, this article from 1997 is still relevant: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html Just think that we have progressed from boring readable to interactive stories now, and then think again if it is a good idea to let somebody else decide weather you can read/play a story tonight, or not. Best wishes, Tels

Yes, but my point was: I am up for the 2-second C&P jobs because they are easy and I can find my way around and learn. I am not yet up for the "implement a new feature" yet

Heh, don't you have more important things to do? I mean, if every time I have an idea, somebody of the whizzbang-coders does it, while I twiddle my thumbs, we never get a release

Arcurus, can you please make a modified texture for me? There is one called "rusty_diamond_pattern" and I like it. However, for metal plates, only the top should have the pattern, while I want the sides/bottom to be plain, but with the same color. The current other "rusty flat" textures are lighter or darker. Could you make a texture with the diamond shapes removed? Thanx!

Moin, in http://www.thirdfilms.com/darkwiki/index.p...ll_Guide_Page_4 fidcal wrote a new weather filter. Since I think this is usefull, I added it to install/games/doom.game and I think this should be commited so it gets into the next release. If you have comments or other filters you want to see included, please reply here.

I don't have a tablet, but I wish I had for such work. I tried to make a texture/heightmap from Ivy leaves, but with my inprecise, jumpy optical mouse, it is just impossible.. Btw, for anyone who looks in bringes sketches into a computer, and who runs windows, check this thing out: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_poi...08&cl=us,en (There is another manufacturer but I forgot the name) You write on special paper (a bit more expensive, tho) and the pen digitzes as you draw. It has a small camera that sees special dots on the paper, enabling the pen to "know" exactly where on the paper it is. It works really cool, I love it, unfortunately it is Windows only - stupid Logitech