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dear ATTI!!!!!! CALM down GODDAMN it..IM doing something else GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! WHat s your plan...THE master BUILDER!!! Are you gonna finish WHOLE PROPS till morning!!!!!!!! MAN... CALM DOWN...! .BUT im telling you BLACK THIEF will burn you on those generators if you model them that much FAST... !!!!!DONT PUSH YOUR LUCK goddamn it!!! BEST

dear ATTTTTi THATs fast damn it..!!!!!!!!!! so cool! I think our concept artist gonna suffer so much..See under one hour they have their mine..tomorrow morning..generators..my goodness..This team is absolutely fantastic... great work...same as concept... and so fast....!!! BEST

dear ATTi HEY!!! dont break my heart..........!!!! Im an emotional fella... The upper two generators is also yours... ...that s just because you touched my heart BEST My dear MAX master..

dear GIMG MAN ...first Darkness_Falls right now ...YOU.. IS this CONCEPT ART DAY OF THE YEAR....MY mind was twirling..right now is spinning both directions.. I will start to make them Right away..my goodness so ..INSPIRING as always ATTi we can model together..Then choose it.. But MINE is yours....BUT big fella is MINE ......deal ??? BEST

dear DARKNESS_FALLS TRULYYYYYYYYY inspiring...MAN...IT SOOOO LOVELY..SO COOL...That s great...PLEASE KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP on sending your great art...IT s really making my tired mind twirl again.... BEST

dear DARKNESS_FALLS where is it...im curiouuss you know... and thanks for that streetlight concept art to it was so inspiring...I forgot to reply your post over there but i replied today... BEST

dear Darkness_Falls I m sorry i forgot to mention..YES...I really wanted to make your concept art. CUz it was sooo cool..I added little different parts upper places...Make it more you know gothic.....And here we are brother.... I will make just like your version too. For different part of the city... KEEEEEEEEEEEEEP CONCEPTING please KEEEEEEEEEP concepting BEST

dear oDDity It s a great idea.Im waiting for your spider masterpieces... Best..

dear ATTi what s your aim man...? seriously are you gonna model everything in one week...? you are really working in lightspeed...great work.. Best

dear oDDity, I ll be HONEST with you... GODDAMN it! AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN it looks so COOL.. Simply amazing how did you handle all of this tweaking task...? It s amazing......I should be working on something else..BUT you are keeping me LOOK at your MODELS! it s enough..!! It s a crime...It s heretical! Goddamn it...!!! BEST

dear Team I know you will discuss this in your close threads..BUT Please do not make them together... Lightgem is a lightgem..compass is compass. SO what we gonna do next? Are we gonna blend MINE with Arrow, BlackJack with nuclear missile.....And Compass with Duck...and Duck with burrick... Im voting for "Burrick and Zombie plus Noblewoman's Boobs and Priest's dick" combo.. Please.... seperate them......This is simply setting up a dynamite in the core of Thief Spirit.. BEST

dear Domarius I think your idea of using MINE is brilliant. Any human type character can see them and act accordingly but not the non-human characters. It would be really awesome to wait that little Zombie to step on that mine and explode himself up...I think this is the way...to go..brilliant.! And additionally it would really awesome to avoid from not only light but the MINE setup for our thief.. That s really nice idea too best

dear SneaksieDave MAN ...IT WASSSSSSSSSSSS AWESOME!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you destroyed me man.. BEST

dear TEAM Although the design is great it s inspiring...Please please please do not consider of using tilting compass + lightgem combo... Our thief does need only lightgem..IT s the purist thing in Thief we should keep it. If you guys want a compass (which i never used it in any game) Just make it little smaller and give the gamer ability to remove it if he wants to... My screen in thief 1 or 2 was clear and pure..All those turning rotating stuff makes the Screen full..And if a screen full you look the UI screen instead of Level itself.. Please remember the Deus ex 2 disaster.. THat UI screen made me uninstalled the game after waiting it for so long. . LET THE LIGHTGEM be alone over there... BEST

dear Springheel, That s the point. A MINE should be use for ANTI-THIEF setups. And what do you say if we dont give any MINE to our thief but force him (and the gamers) to collect MINES if he wants to.. And we can show the true face of Mines to gamers. If you wanna use it ...Well First you have to disable it and then you have to collect it... I think it would be giving extra sweat to everyone... -"Hmmm. that s the one..That s the one i have to cut the green one........................ GOSH! ...the wrong one....Oh...damn....Victoria ...Im coming to you... My green veiny lover...Im coming to you in a second" -"Hey wake up..!! wake up! Garrett...you are dreaming again..and again you are seeing that VICTORIA in your dream ..How many times should i tell you ..." -"Oh Shut up you Noble fat ass!.. Goddamn.it...It was a nightmare..a fucking nightmare....OH damn Im late.... Im going ..Darkness is waiting for me.." -"Oh Garrett please dont leave me...you know im a jealous woman im jealous for even dead Victoria" -"Im trying to get over it OK. I gotta go now..Darkness is waiting for me.." -"Garrett....." -"WHAT now!!" -"Dont forget your Lightgem baby..It s over there you know...." -"YOu and your fantasies...God damn.. I will put brand new GIMG Mine over there next time...." -"Please do a quick visit to my father place.He got his new case...." -"That s why you are still my baby....my noble woman" best..... ( i think i need a rest)

dear TEAM it s good to keep the core of Thief but it doesnt mean that we are only limited with them..We can come up with other wise tools... We shouldnt make a WARMACHINE I mean he is a damn thief. More weapons makes him more annihilator type of guy..I remember there were times i was cheating the spirit of Thief in T3. I was killing everyone with everything..This was not good. I should have played so much SNEAK based .But HEY! i had many weapons in use and im oldie FPS shooter, my insticts making me Shooter if i have the weapon. . So we really can give the Fans the mines..but we can improve it. We can change the Mine's structure, I mean Same Mine but different usage in different condition. I was in Kosovo for 6 months for a video documentary and Nato army stuff. I have seen that MINE thingy and how actually hard to make it work and once it works how hard to make it stop...It s so serious device, it s not a joke that you can put around and wait for an idiot to step on and blow himself up.. And if you ask my personal opinion the LAST thing for a thief to use is MINE. with this shape and condition...Especially to put a mine in front of guard almost ridicolous.. In the game of SOUND ...it s totally nonsense. I remember i was even throwing those MINES!! What the hell that SOUND was going i dont know..Im not against the idea of MINE-like thingys but this kind of MINE really its not mine! We can come up with small devices (I loved the shape of GIMG' design. i think it s so useful if it s small in the game..) Even we can make magnetic small mines little bigger than a button... So my last opinion let s keep the MINE but make it different.. best

dear GIMGF I m uploading a basic modelling for you to see it your concept art..I hope it helps..YOu can put many details without hesitating..more you draw more we model.. best...

dear GIMG I think it looks very cool... I ll be trying modelling on it...If you are ok..we can even put that TIMER on it..what do you say..(the timer tha Sparhawk mentioned) best

dear oDDity, ok ok...i got it....for general use we have to sacrifice the pre-lit stuff you are right ok..then... we will go with the flow... best

dear oDDity yes i got it.. Goddamn it..it s really turning into a huge number even with 2..Goddamn it.. You are right it s so wise to remodel low rez version. man..I was hoping a miracle.....But at least UV mapping is getting easy.. Actually about UV mapping ..i was seriously thinking buying...Bodypaint version 2. But as far as i can see next update will be revolutionary in terms UV mapping.. I will decide after seeing that 8.2 update.. Actually i believe sometimes is better to make everything in LAYoUT procedurals and normal mapping...then have a nice clean atlas mapping..or other good UV mappin, but not insanely accurate UV mapping....then baking the surface with radiosity - are light combo according to the level.... I was thinking about really if we really little bit reach some certain values about light colors in the levels we can match that texturing in lightwave universe and make the object's surface baking process accordingly.. Without trusting (as you mention before) Doom3's engines.. what do you say...? i hope i was clear enough.. I mean in levels we can have a certain type of light and light colors..different light sources with different kelvin values..as we texturing our model with radiosity in LW we can obey those kelvin numbers in the light, (or color values). And may be it would be so much accurate texturing. I have seen in your computer screen you still have UNREALED shortcut, you know how different looks Lightwave objects in Unreal in terms of getting light from a lightsource..I mean doom3 is definetely so much better but we can improve this.. I mean may be unrealistic but at least while we making our models we should know little bit level too.. What do you say...Other wise it will be imported objects to the every level with same texture...and this texture quality will be (unfortunately) depending on Doom3Engine... Is it so unrealistic to even start to make concept art for some interiors along with the certain light fixtures.. Not just concept art for models but also for levels...We can rebuilt that level in lightwave and use lightwave's breathtaking renderer with surface baking... level designer should also know where this model has to recieve the light and put that model let say to a certain place..Not close to fireplace...for example.. Am i making sense..... If im not it s ok.. best (and little confusion)

dear oDDity I know your honesty is your personal guide. And you told me you were honest with yourself till you get this level of modelling.. And i think you are about to write a book called LW for DOOM3..I mean you are really giving book level information..i have already made NOTES from oDDity document file...Im copying pasting everything you post... I know qemLoss is not that much functional..It needs lotta tweaking..But i was thinking the make the same model with lets say 5 or 4 patch division in modeler... And making everything in hires with this 5 patch division level and making a NORMAL MAP from that division level... and then Freeze the low poly object let say in 2 division..and make the triple later on.. what do you say ... actually i should try first..Because everything is already patch divided (sub patch) the tweaking should be less.. That s why i will model everything with subpatches what do you think? Thanks for reminding the smoothing angle 180... i was really freaking out already. from your posts i understand so many details. because i was getting excited more and more working here, i was pushing Atti to LW side hopefully he can try one day... Honestly, BEST..

dear Team:) thanks for the back up..Actually i realized that there is two main faction in our team(which you all know) So i was trying to make something in the middle..and little bit different.All your intellectual talking really inspring me...perhaps other modellers too.. And yes sparkhawk we can put little glowing ball upper place.. Somehow i was trying to make it little gas pipes...I mean you can call it magic too or gas pipe ..So upper level will be giving different light ..below is traditional street light.. thanks for the feedback... you are the BEST

dear Team ...especially springheel I know i have to finish some other modelling.. it s 4 am and i wanted to do something before sleeping.. It s just a basic rendering.....with basic surfacing.. I ll be modelling better foot with proper detail.. best ...

dear Atti mmm i dont believe LW has demo version...at least i dont know about it....So we have to first solve that puzzle.. thanks for at least... trying decision best...

dear Atti Lightwave Goddamn it ..mind control is a crap..or at least it s not working with my browser... you know .... i will really make an introduction video file...for you...Keep your MAX progress..Teach me ..i mean or let s learn together MAYA for animation exports..but really ...YOU have to try just for once..this lightwave... Just once... Keep your old background...as it is...But not for this MOD only for many things..you will use it...im pretty sure.. We all love edges..But really We will have soon..hopefully in next release we have ...somekind of EDGY edges.. Ok...what do you say ..should we try make a just ten minutes of introduction to LW just for you.. Or you can download 3dBUZZ's LW stuff... But it s not that much inspirational.. what do you say..? BEST