Npcs

[slavatrumpevitch]

I looked at the wiki, and it seemed like there are umpteenzillion specific character types (which all seem really cool): builders, mages, pagans, inventors, etc. But will there be normal gaurds too? I don't mean city-watch, I mean personally employed gaurds of wealthy noble's lavish mansions. Like the Bafford gaurds, or Ramirez guards, or like in thief 2 how there were like 6 different types of generic guys in Life of the Party (Orange and Purple uniforms, solid red, solid purple, solid green, etc, as well as city watch in their brilliant blue uniforms...) Hopefully plans for differently skinned generic mansion gaurds are underway. I think the biggest problem with T3, (as well as DX2) was the lack of diversity in the plain-old gaurds. T3 had only city-watch, and an occasional thug or two (and DX2 had only SCC guards).

[mike mayday]

Check the screenshots, they show "private" guards.

[slavatrumpevitch]

really? i certainly don't see them. I see a skeleton, some builders, and a bunch of city-watch. But maybe i'm just confused

 

The four guys who look like city watch in one screenshot, are they personal gaurds? they all look pretty similar, and pretty 'city-watchish' I was thinking more along the lines of vibrant purple uniforms so they would be easily identified as being some noble's guys. you know, like how the guys with the green and brown uniforms in T1 were "ramirez's boys" you could have like 6 different noble families, each with there own very easily recognizable outfit/insignia and they could have their own little feuds and rivalries going on. It could add a lot of depth to a mission if it were done tastefully

Edited June 27, 2006 by slavatrumpevitch

[mike mayday]

Oddity has continued to create more remarkable models--check out his guards. From left to right, we have a regular city watch, a regular guard, an elite mercenary guard, and an elite city watch.

on the main page there's a description of the screenshot.

[slavatrumpevitch]

...an elite city watch, a regular guard, an elite mercenary gaurd....

 

i guess i'm just a little concerned about the phrase "a regular gaurd" Does this mean there will only be one type of non-citywatch, non-guild-affiliated guard?

 

just to clarify, i do not wish to come across as if i'm poo-pooing TDM or Oddity's spectacular modeling ability in anyway. I'm just really hoping there will be a great amount of variety in the regular gaurds.

[mike mayday]

You can always add the textures yourself, right?

 

Or, if not, I can add them.

[Vadrosaul]

Modelling, skinning, and texturing will be done to death upon the release of the DarkMod. It's the easiest thing for any modder with a lick of artistic capability to do.

[sparhawk]

If that is the case, why don't we see some support now? We have applied several times for aid in the modelling and texturing department.

[SneaksieDave]

Hah, I was just about to ask the same. If it truly is that easy, why are so few helping us?

[mike mayday]

Beacause there is an exam session in progress, then there's the holiday trip to the seaside and then IT'S MODELLIN' TIME, BABY!!!

 

(Actually, I'd prefer to do the textures, My experience with low-poly is low-poly too).

[sparhawk]

So you mean, that ALL the thief fans, who would be dying to help us, are prevented from doing so, because they all have exams around the world, at the same time? What a pity!

[mike mayday]

No, I only meant the really awesome ones (me):

 

http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/~mayday/images/AC.gif

Edited June 27, 2006 by mike mayday

[Vadrosaul]

Hah, I was just about to ask the same. If it truly is that easy, why are so few helping us?

I said it was easy to do, not easy to do well

[Ishtvan]

New skins should be fairly straightforward, since they don't require re-animating the AI. So I would expect some diversity in the guard uniform colors and insignias could be added by the community, if we don't do it first.

[slavatrumpevitch]

excellent, that's good to hear.