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The rules are: don't ask any technical questions regarding the Dark Mod, use the Dark Mod forum for that. Also, any thread-hijacking will be looked down apon. Otherwise, pretty much anything goes. Oh yeah, no porn please. Or warez. :lol:

I considered using some people's custom models with slightly higher poly and better textures as a base - check out the Editor's guild, there's a thread there devoted to custom objects (this is on TTLG).

Well so there are scripted ones in it for specific effects - but the ones that aren't scripted are VERY good. Like the one Jay mentioned in some other thread - shoot one of the lights hanging by chains in Site 2 (I think it is) and it reacts bloody awesomely. And you just have to get to the part where you use the remote control metal claw to pick up and drop radioactive drums into a waste disposal - sorry for the language, but f*ck, I have never seen ANYTHING like this in any other game. If you tell the claw to lower, and it isn't precicely centered around the drum, then when the claws close, the ones on one side hit first, naturally, causing the claw to pick it up on an angle. Raise the claw, and it is actually carrying the drum in an akward way!! This stuff just can't be scripted! There are too many possibilities Regarding the AI, it is actually not even worth comparing Doom3 to Doom 1 and Doom 2. Those D1 & 2 monsters only ran directly toward you in a bee-line, wether there was a wall there or not. Their pathfinding was limited to sliding along a wall or edge if they happened to run into something along the way. Doom 3 is the real deal. Once an enemy is present, it will chase you anywhere, no matter how complex the path you run, no matter how far away (well, there is a distance limit, but you have that in all games). I have even been testing this myself with my own maps.

So, Tom, are you still with us? Haven't seen you post anywhere yet. Are you seeing the developer's forums now?

http://www.tpd.tno.nl/smartsite966.html that's the URL. but I found out that it actually isn't one huge picture. there is also a thread in the TTLG at Communtiy Chat. http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91130&page=1

Anyone familiar with this team? I was wondering if we could recruit some people now that they seem like they're nearing completion. http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91246

I figure some of us will just be messing around in Photoshop and come up with miscellaneous Thief-related artwork from time-to-time that may or may not be usable for DarkMod. Such an occurrence just happened for me. I was just messing around in Photoshop and made this flaming hammer, with Springheel's priest in the background. Nothing special; just did it for fun. This thread can be used by anyone who just happens to whip out some miscellaneous thief-related artwork and wants to post it for others to see. Since we all love Thief, I'm sure we can all appreciate thief-inspired artwork, no matter how great or small.

yea no worries ..I will let you know next time. Like I said in the other thread I will be away seeing clients this week and also 6th – 14 th December. I hope to get a good week on the noble man next week and hopefully get to a point of generating the normal map from zbrush after it has been sculpted. I am very happy to do some models for the project ..unfortunately this time of year is very busy for my business so I will not be at 100% for the next couple of weeks ..having said that once I get these two trips out of the way I am clear for the rest of the year.

No don’t worry I just posted another reply in the other thread ..I have been away but still on the noble man

Cool! Keep me posted, so I can update our 'requests' thread. This is more like it!

Slow down, NH. See above post. We should be very careful about not letting our own enthusiasm dictate what we show the public. We could post something like this in our own public forums, but I wouldn't make it a public release, UNLESS it was combined with some other things, like mentioned above. In all seriousness, if we had the following: The bedroom map (in-game, with fire going), The ability for objects to vanish when frobbed At the very least, removing the D3 HUD and crosshairs THEN, I think it might be worth releasing a new video. But not until then. IMO, it's better to have people wondering what we're up to than it is to release things that make people (who know nothing about how hard things are) say, "THAT's all you've got so far??"

I mean. It sounds funny, but I can't really imagine how it would feel to play. Agreed. Because when multiple people post ideas in a single thread it is much harder to keep track of a discussion about particular ideas.

Perhaps. I was mostly thinking towards something for replay value. But yes, it might be an "iffy" thing. Maybe a more refined idea could come from this. Wait, how about then, instead of random loot spawns... randomized (within set locations) loot locations! I forget what game it was, damn... some game that was out a while ago had you looking for...um.. something(?!) and each time you played it could be in a different location. *WRACKS BRAIN* What the heck game was that? Anyway, imagine hitting Bafford's again, only to find that the scepter is NOT in the throne room? That instead, he left it near his fireplace in his bedroom. That little feature could add replay value to a mission - random choice of special loot (ugh, did I just use that phrase?) placement points. Maybe objectives would/could/(should?) change to go with it. "Steal the scepter. Lord Bafford has been sick recently, and hasn't been to his throne room for weeks." Right. As I was mentioning, it always struck me (only bothered me a little, but it bothered nonetheless) odd in Thief that sometimes people are just pacing. Guards? Yes, that's fine. But when a servant, or Lady of the house or whatever, is just pacing back and forth for no apparent reason, it just seems odd. It would be much better if they actually appeared to be doing something (which rests on the shoulders of the designer, ultimately), but if they can't be made to look like they're doing "something", every little bit that actually helps them look alive, helps. Incidentally, why a new thread? Or was that just a posting error? I feel a spotlight on my back! *runs and hides*

We had briefly discussed (in a different thread) using different sounds for the same object in relation to musical instruments that a player might come across (e.g., a harp). I thought it was pretty much a given that we'd want to do this for most sound effects.

Okay, since it hasn't been done yet, I'll kick it off. First let me say, I assume this thread is to contain requests out of the ordinary, as stated by sparhawk at the TTLG forums: QUOTE I'm not talking of the standard features like buttons, switches, or similar stuff. Rather I'm thinking of things you might have wanted to implement in an FM but you couldn't because of limitations in the engine or in DromEd as opposed to the obvious, like rope arrows, swimming, etc. So here's a few ideas just to get things going. -random treasure spawns. An author would place a piece of optional treasure, and set a percentage chance that it will appear or not. -optional path nodes (although I think this might already be possible with Dromed). The AI can choose to ignore a node or go on a different, separate path altogether. -AI actions similar to NOLF2. I never played the game myself, but I'd heard they do things that are unexpected, at unexpected times. Many times I've played Thief and thought to myself, "why is that cook just pacing back and forth?" Clearly for gameplay, NOT realism. "Why would a guy just be standing here in a dark room, facing the wall, then turn to the fireplace, back to the wall, back to fireplace, etc?" Again, gameplay, not realism. I'd heard that in NOLF2, AI will often kick a can around, or fidget (already in Thief), or even leave patrol to go to the restroom. That sounds like a fantastic addition that might really lend some tension to the overall experience. -AI ladder climbing. Touchy subject, that, as it eliminates some safety and comfort in the game, but probably a good addition. Okay, there's a few for now. What ideas would you suggest?

If you look for some tutorials you can learn the basics in a few hours. It is really hard to learn when you just want to experiement with it, without looking at a manual. Fomr the big apps you can usually do a lot just by clicking around. Not so with Blender. On the other hand, the interface is asboluelty streamlined to support the workflow. If you learn the keys you must use you can do a lot of stuff in a short time once you are used to it. I saw on the blender forums that there are now also video tutorials available. This might be helpfull. Search on D3World for "blender tutorials" and you can find them easily, there is a direct link to these.

This workflow I highly recommend, not because the 3 programs suggested here are FREE, but because they are the best at what they do, IMO. I love these 3 programs. You will LOVE wings3d for modelling, if you are like me and HATE Blender's nerdy complex interface. (this is from http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/vie...ic.php?p=21397) Where to get these programs: www.wings3d.com (for modelling) CharacterFX www.insanesoftware.de (for animating) Lithunwrap (for texturing) is discontinued and available free at arras's site http://members.lycos.co.uk/arras1/ Also check out arras's site to see what he has been making with this workflow. Bloody awesome game objects. They are all very low poly though, for older systems. Look at the gallery forums at the www.wings3d.com forums to see the high-poly stuff people are making with wings3d. It's just as well suited for low poly as high poly - it has always used the "box modelling" interface, which only the latest versions of big name 3D apps have just made it the new pseudo standard for modelling. The reason this workflow is so good is because each of these programs has a specific purpose (modeling, texturing, and animating) and they are all VERY GOOD and VERY SIMPLE TO USE at what they are for. Ever hard of the term "jack of all trades, master of none"? That doesn't apply to this workflow

As I said in the other thread. You can try Blender. It is well supported it seems and it is IMO rather easy to learn on poly modeling. Plus you can export and import lightwave format.

This isn't an accusation thread, so don't worry Deep Omega. You've obviously had your hands full and that's fine. But, this combined with other abscence and people actually just disappearing or not being active, has meant a real decrease in productivity. A message from someone asking to be excused for a few days/weeks/months even isn't too much to ask, and it saves us the position of just not knowing where they've gone or if they're still onboard. What would help, in the future, is to UPLOAD EVERY VERSION OF A MODEL TO THE FTP, OR CVS. That way work can continue in another's hands.

Last night after I read the "modelling crisis"-thread I thought about, how to get some models done faster. So I looked for some original D3 models, which we could use with only a few tweaks and of course new skins. For example the boney-zombie (that's the one without clothes). It looks already similar to the original T1 zombies - we would just need a new skin for him. Then the fat-zombie - you remember the fat cook in the first T3 level ? I think the zombie-model would be already great for a fat civilian (like a cook). All we'd need to do is adding shoes and a new skin/normal map. This way we'd already have 2 AIs. After that we could tweak the fat zombie again and make for example a fat aristocrat (?). (of course we'd need new animations for the civilians) What do you think ?

You don't need to rename it. Depends on the program though. If you use Total Commander you can enter a pk4 (or any other archive it supports) just like a directory.

I finished the highlight for doors and changed the behaviour for items as well. Now the highlighting works in a uniform way for all entities. As you can see on the screenshot it may not be to nice for ingame, so I would need a texture that can be used for the highlight. Currently I simply use this one for testing: base/textures/base_door/doorlight_grn.tga http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showt...st=0entry4929 I think the texture should probably be just a white one so that it will brighten up the object in a uniform way but with lower brightness. Probably a moderately light gray. If you want to test the texture you can do the following: I used the frobTest.map. In materials/custom.mtr you (Renzatic) added this material description and I added this texture to it. Textures/Dark_Mod/Mansion/Doors/Mansion_Door02 { qer_editorimage Textures/Dark_Mod/Mansion/Doors/Mansion_Door02_ed.tga diffusemap Textures/Dark_Mod/Mansion/Doors/Mansion_Door02_d.tga specularmap Textures/Dark_Mod/Mansion/Doors/Mansion_Door02_s.tga bumpmap Textures/Dark_Mod/Mansion/Doors/Mansion_Door02_local.tga { // if ( parm11 >= 0.5 ) blend add map textures/base_door/doorlight_grn.tga colored } }

Funny. I also found this thread today, but I was not sure if this is what I need. Also one problem I have is, that this material would do the highlight always, right?

Hey I would like to personally thank you for your help on the doom3world forums for various questions I have asked. Thanks for the support and the help! Good Luck on your mod!

Ok, to go along with our Mansion Pack, we're going to need the models that are required for basic play. Things like our lightgem, weapons and equipment. Just like the other thread, I'll post links to reference pictures and record who is doing what. Stars in front of the object mean it has already been spoken for. Completed objects will be highlighted in red once they are uploaded to the ftp site. Please sign up for anything you are interested in. (update: Jan 15th) HUD Elements: ** Lightgem/compass -- TYROT -- WIP Weapons: ** Short Sword -- DeepOmega -- WIP ** Bow -- oDDity Noise Arrow Rope Arrow Equipment: ** Flashbomb -- Deep Omega -- WIP ** Holy Water Flask -- TYROT -- Example ** Potion Bottle -- Fingernail -- Example #1 -- ** Explosive Mine -- TYROT ** Gas Mine -- Atti Flare ** Looking Glass (telescope) -- -- Fingernail -- http://www.scientificcollectables.com/page_telescopes.htm -- WIP Lockpicks