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[BlackThief]

hm cant post pics

yeah that's a bit annyoing - you have to use imageshak or upload it to the ftp.

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check the post again the link is now there..

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[oDDity]

THey look great, but I think we could probably get away with the part that sits flat against the door just being a square poly and cut out using an alpha map. A normal map can be made from the high res model to make it stabd out furtuur.

You'll ned them a lot higher res and rounded than that though to generate a decent normal map.

[Fingernail]

Just because we can make normalmaps and low poly models, doesn't mean we have to. There's no reason not to have these as they are; they'd probably look better ingame for such a minor performance hit as to be unnoticeable.

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wouldnt it be too flat?

[Fingernail]

Also, like that they probably wouldn't even NEED a normalmap, so saving on texture memory which is more of a killer than poly count anyhow.

[oDDity]

THe little 128x256 texture need for them would hardly be an issue. THere not much of a saving by not having a normal map, since it puts a default flat blue one in it's place instead.

There is only a saving by not using spec or height maps.

Poly count is not a minor issue either. Why do you think the doom models are all as low poly as possible. Most of the characters are very low res at about 2-2.5k polys.

THe advantage of alpha maps is you can get perfectly rounded sies, rather than the agularity assosiated with low poly models.

Edited May 8, 2005 by oDDity

[Fingernail]

Not true: D3 is low poly because id wanted it to look and perform the same on as many PCs as possible. We are aiming for a year or more until release, so most people can handle more by then.

 

And you can't get any more rounded than smoothing groups using a normal; try rendering normalmaps from a perfect sphere to a low poly one; the normal will come out pure blue because you can't make it any more rounded...

[oDDity]

You can't smooth edges. If you tried to model a large round coin it would end up looking like a 50 pence piece unless you put a ridiculous number of polys into it. With an alpha map you can make a perfect circle from one polygon.

WIth those locks above, you'd be able to make the them rounded rather than angular.

 

[Fingernail]

with an alpha map, yes.

 

But in some ways I think it almost looks better being slightly jagged. They are locks, after all.

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well yea,not everything is smooth in our world..

 

btw you wont find it so jagged ingame since it will have texture, a door behind it,and you wont see the wireframe...also you will rarely see it in such size

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a rocking chair..

[sparhawk]

That rocks!

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it needs some optimization..

 

btw cant wait to see the shadow of it ingame:)