Jump to content


Photo

Climate Change and Societal Collapse


  • Please log in to reply
178 replies to this topic

#176 Anderson

Anderson

    Advanced Member

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 1097 posts

Posted 14 November 2018 - 01:26 PM

None of that within our lifetime though.


 "I really perceive that vanity about which most men merely prate — the vanity of the human or temporal life. I live continually in a reverie of the future. I have no faith in human perfectibility. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active — not more happy — nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. The result will never vary — and to suppose that it will, is to suppose that the foregone man has lived in vain — that the foregone time is but the rudiment of the future — that the myriads who have perished have not been upon equal footing with ourselves — nor are we with our posterity. I cannot agree to lose sight of man the individual, in man the mass."...

 

 

- 2 July 1844 letter to James Russell Lowell from Edgar Allan Poe.

 


#177 Aldo

Aldo

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 29 posts

Posted 17 November 2018 - 11:48 PM

An interesting documentary that tries to explore the various sides of climate change. Some parts are spoken in German and Dutch, but there are subtitles available.

 

A very interesting documentary, some perspectives that I have never considered.  People are to quick to believe in "20 second grabs" and sensationalism and not weigh up all the facts these days.  It scary how we are manipulated to ensure that multinational companies are making constant profits, and how low they are willing to stoop to ensure this.  The reduction of biodiversity of agriculture by forcing farmers to run CO2 reduction programs instead of growing different species of plants could have devastating effects on human kind.  If the English guy is correct about CO2 and the Russian guy is correct about oil then most of us have been believing in a massive conspiracy.  I always thought campfires were cool to watch, now I understand why, it has a kind of balancing effect on our minds.



#178 Anderson

Anderson

    Advanced Member

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 1097 posts

Posted Yesterday, 09:27 AM

A very interesting documentary, some perspectives that I have never considered.  People are to quick to believe in "20 second grabs" and sensationalism and not weigh up all the facts these days.  It scary how we are manipulated to ensure that multinational companies are making constant profits, and how low they are willing to stoop to ensure this.  The reduction of biodiversity of agriculture by forcing farmers to run CO2 reduction programs instead of growing different species of plants could have devastating effects on human kind.  If the English guy is correct about CO2 and the Russian guy is correct about oil then most of us have been believing in a massive conspiracy.  I always thought campfires were cool to watch, now I understand why, it has a kind of balancing effect on our minds.

 

Water flowing in rivers, ponds, waterfalls has the same effect as campfires/bonfires.

 

Did not really get where the Russian dude was getting at because many natural resources are located in Russia and other dictatorships. So, for the most part it is a political option where to get those resources from, by trying to deal with ”the lesser evil”. For Europe, at least as far as natural gas is concerned, it would be Azerbaijan at the moment.

 

A little silly with the public bath owner complaining that authorities want an electronic register. That is fiscal stuff and no way you can get around that. If he wants anarchy and pirated software to avoid taxes, he can come to Eastern Europe I guess.


Edited by Anderson, Yesterday, 09:30 AM.

 "I really perceive that vanity about which most men merely prate — the vanity of the human or temporal life. I live continually in a reverie of the future. I have no faith in human perfectibility. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active — not more happy — nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. The result will never vary — and to suppose that it will, is to suppose that the foregone man has lived in vain — that the foregone time is but the rudiment of the future — that the myriads who have perished have not been upon equal footing with ourselves — nor are we with our posterity. I cannot agree to lose sight of man the individual, in man the mass."...

 

 

- 2 July 1844 letter to James Russell Lowell from Edgar Allan Poe.

 


#179 Aldo

Aldo

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 29 posts

Posted Today, 03:04 AM

I would expect that sitting with an old dutch farmer that there were be other reasons why the campfire looked so balanced.  ;)

 

I see Marijn has been shunned for this movie and told he has a journalistic responsibility. People should be allowed to voice their opinions and these issues should be allowed to be openly debated.






1 user(s) are reading this topic

1 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


    Anderson