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Why are you still using 1.08 ? Running Mac OS ? Anyway, from what I know the URL for downloads has moved with 2.01 from http://www.thedarkmo...le_missions.php to http://missions.thed...le_missions.php I just fired up a copy of 1.08 on Windows and it can not connect to the server either. I assume that the code can not handle the response on the old URLs which indicates that a REDIRECT would be neccessary and gives that errormessage. So, you will have to download the missions manually if you can not upgrade to 2.01 for some reason unless someone updates the code to either handle redirects properly or update the URLs and pushes out a maintenace update for that old version.

You can't track the contest, I am afraid. But you can get some info here. http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1001928521 Whatever 'videos' or other stuff may be submitted for that contest, will probably not be visible to the public before the contest ends and the winners are announced. (after april 14) Hmmm... did they actullay state how much will be made available to the public? (winner only ? best 3 ? or everything ? Not sure)

I am a completionist and I do not care about any mission-objectives at all. Which means: I ignore any statement like 'go to place x first'. My playstyle is to explore every accessible area in a systematic way, so that I won't miss anything - especially when it comes to loot. Once done with that, I start caring a bit more about the plot and story and enjoy whereever the mission takes me next.

The front page is text only- Not very inviting to explore and get a quick idea what TDM looks like. A revolving tiny little 100x80 pixel image won't do the trick. I am still not convinced that combining MOD & Mission downloads does any good. Too crowded and as jaxa pointed out, too little space for the missions. (In my mind a couple of additional columns would be nice as well: - link to the mission thread (!) - date of last update) I think both should have their own page - and each might have a quick link to the other one for fast & intuitive navigation.

I wonder what might be still 'going on behind the scenes', keeping in mind that the contest officially started already on february 17 ?

Thanks!

I don't think that making the News page is of much interest, especially for players who do not even know TDM yet. They would read about 'improvements' without really knowing about the game itself. So, the News page wouldn't be a good replacement, because it is basicly Text-Only as well, except for a few AI-detail-studies, which do not tell me all that much about the game. And with about 1 post per year, or 2 maybe, it wouldn't be all that exiting anyway. Experienced TDM fans can still bookmark whatever page they prefer. What the Main page really needs are some eye-catching screenshots. That's what would create interest fot potential new players. The current version is text-only, and many people won't even read it. I like the current Main page 'in general' because it is quite informative and short. Up to the point, so to speak. How about adding a slideshow which blends in the images from the Media page? Cheap trick, I know, but it would be nice to watch and would not clutter that page overly much. Well, adding 2 static beatiful screenshots on top would not hurt, though. Don't see a reason to duplicate the content of the Main page to other pages. Just creates useless redundancy and additional maintaince. Edit: I never read the News or the info on the Main page except for the headline and maybe 1 or 2 outstanding bullets in the text. So, at least for me it wouldn't help to catch my interest on TDM at all. Let images speak!

Uploaded to which place ??? An upload was not neccessary, because the correct file was there already yesterday when I posted. http://darkmod.taaak...eagain_l10n.pk4 However, both localization links on the download page pointing to taaki's server in are still dead and wrong. http://www.thedarkmo...ndetails/?id=81

Having the main page centered would be nice. But NO to combine Download and Missions. Both are different things, and combining them would not gain much except for cluttering the screen, imho. (Especially with the many ifs-and-buts concerning OS : Windows/Linux,Mac?) Personally I would rearrange the menues in a more logical way, though: - Main (adding 2 ot 3 nice screenies showing the architecture, AI in action, and a DOWLOAD button that leads me to the right page) - News - Media (screenies tell more then words as far as new Players are concerned) - Team - Download (First, you need to download the MOD...) - Missions (...then you can take care of the missions) - Forum A few other suggestions, mainly for the Missions panel: please change the default sorting to 'by Update timestamp'. The current sorting by title does not help me at all figuring out if anything new was released. Adding a 'minimum TDM version' for the missions might be good as well. (At least Mac players would be happy about that, I guess)

The two Localization download links for 'Home Again' pointing to taaaki's server are both wrong and totally invalid. The first would be pointing to the L10N files for 'In the North' (In case it was hosted on that server, then people would get the l10n for a totally different mission! But luckily, it isn't.) and the second one doesn't look ok, either. At any rate it is dead. They should be eliminated and replaced with this: http://darkmod.taaak...eagain_l10n.pk4

Excellent mission! Thanks!

Thanks for a new mission ! Too bad... don't have any time for anything these days.

Oh, I forgot to mention how strict my rules on my personal 100% KO objective really are: this includes taking desparate measures like deliberate crate stacking in order to get even the last lonely AI that is patrolling on an elevated position where the player is not even supposed to go to. But NO KILLS.

I am a pretty lame taffer, actually. Typically I KO the guards. (Personal Objectives: KO all AI ! Depending on my mood I will restrict myself to KO all guards, but keep any civilians alone) If a mission requires me to ghost on Expert, then I can accept that and will stick to it. However, sometimes I feel like I should be a better taffer and do more ghosting, but then there is typically 1 or 2 AI that are really getting on my nerves, and I say to myself: They ask for it ! Blackjack them altogether ! Part of the reason is that I love exploring every inch of the maps... and getting 100% loot is a non-discussable requirement. So, my patience fades after a while.

What?? It is not really like there would be 20 missions released per month. So, if anyone is not even willing to play the 1 or 2 missions that come out each month, then they are not TDM fans. Btw.: the mission is good and nice, but just not 100% perfect. (However, I might imagine that quite a few people might want to wait for an update to be released, which fixes the stuff that would have been found and fixed in a beta already. There is nothing game-breaking, though.)

Thanks for a new mission !! Started playing today - but won't be able to continue too soon. Overall it looks really nice... and performance wise it does not bring down my elderly PC. A few issues, though. I have seen most of the estate, but I must be missing something:

Oh, boy. The last version was completely useless, because the jar was empty. So, here is TDMMissionDbCheck v0.5. The missions are now analyzed in alphabetical order as requested and size-differences less then ~0.5 MB compared to the 'nominal size' are now properly ignored. @Taaaki, can you tell if the WebUI now allows to enter proper version Strings? (e.g. '1.01' instead of a simple '1') This would help making future updates on any mission work much better for the players.

Very nice mission ! Thanks!

Congrats on the release of TDM and The Gatehouse ! Just a minor update (FYI) Thanks to taaaki, the issue with the Admin webpage producing whitespaces on links should be gone. (at least I guess so, or it should be gone as soon as the servers are moved) http://bugs.thedarkm...iew.php?id=3640 With that most missions (except for one) appear green. Thanks! Currently there is only one bad link : httttp://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/gatehouse.pk4 Btw: v0.46 is up - with a couple of minor changes and improvements. The most important thing is that it will ignore the xml file on the server, in case it is not present, thus all the errors you would see with the older versions will be suppressed. (Don't know yet if that file has moved or whether it is no longer used at all and gone for good. If I am not mistaken it was only a fallback URL for the downloader, in case PHP would not respond.) Thanks again!

What?!? What kind of monitor do you need for a machine that displays no more then 40*25characters? (320x200 pixles, 8-bit colour) Seems like you entirely missed the computer-stonerage ! Hmmmm... I would like to fire up my own once again, but it used to roast my TVs all the time. I still have it, though.

I perfectly agree. I do not see any reason to host TDM missions anywhere else anyway. TDM has it's own server farm. And maintainting those mirrors should be sufficent. If the admin of thiefmissions gets back to work (he missed most of the Thief mission in 2013), I might ask him to drop his mirrors and link to the individual mission-download pages instead.

Not trying to derail any traffic from this forum, but Thief1/2 and its patches and FMs and Loaders and MODs is an entire universe in for itself. And a pretty big one, I might say. You should visit ttlg.com for these games. There you will find any question answered that you might now or in the future. NewDark : an unofficial complete overhole of the Thief engine (release in oct 2012, current version is 1.21). It brings a lot of improvement with respect to graphics quality. For convenience, there are TFix (for Thief1) and TafferPatcher (for Thief 2) which include that patch - along with other improvements. http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141148 When it comes to FMs, be aware that the most of the latest missions are exclusively designed for NewDark. Trying to play them with the original games will either not work or look terrible. You should find a statement in the readme if a mission requires NewDark or not. FmSel : this is the new mission loader that is actually part of NewDark. It has some nice features, but lacks a bit of usability imho. However, you can still use any other loader. Actually I am still sticking with DarkLoader. Regarding the WaterPatch : from what I read, it requires NewDark. Therefor it will not work without that.

Well, actually you can blame me for that... at least to some extend. Some time last year I was in contact with the person who maintains that site. He was about to catch up with the TDM missions, but since TDM 2.0 was getting closer, I convinced him into delaying that action. It was clear that a couple of the missions were outdated on thiefmissions, but it was also clear that quite a few mission would need to be updated for 2.0 again. Now, with the lack of transparency which missions that would be, and the fact that the mission page on the TDM site does not even show the date of the updates for any mission, it would have been a real nightmare figuring out which missions to touch an which were still up to date. And a few months later - with release of 2.0 - the same nightmare would have started all over again.

Don't know what exactly the problem is. Maybe it is not directly in the hands of the admins to fix? http://www.ttlg.com/...l=1#post2224707 At any rate the problem is known for a while already. EDIT: Oh, look at that. Al_B stated that The Circle is up again. Just a few hours after this thread was opened. http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142777&p=2230176&viewfull=1#post2230176 So, no need to mess with the hosts file.

There is a slight problem with the DNS entry of The Circle, but the site is up. However, you need to add something in your c.\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file: 74.208.213.90 www.thief-thecircle.com However, why do you need The Circle specifically ? Their fan mission database is terribly outdated. Nothing got added there since jan 2009. There is http://www.ttlg.com as a forum and http://thiefmissions.com for downloading fan-missions With respect to the Gold Patch: there is currently an issue. By accident the author added a 64bit 7-zip version inside which is required to extract the stuff. An update should be availlable soon, I guess, so it will work for people with 32 bit OS as well.