Questions From Garreth

[Garreth]

Can someone check this?

it hangs during dmap, after throwing in alot of patches.

I only added the builder satue, the trigger, sound and light outside.

DR - http://www.mediafire.com/?vs49cjc89o6vone

BAK- http://www.mediafire.com/?ah6wulqh1kdzdrt

MAP- http://www.mediafire.com/?46eb8p8cf240jrn

[swordbreaker]

I can't even open it in DR properly. Your model made with patches is extremely high poly. That must be the reason.

 

ignore my post. There is a problem on my end and DR works so slow no matter what I do. It's time to full virus scan my hdd...

Edited March 20, 2011 by swordbreaker

[Fidcal]

It's too complex as worldspawn. I converted the main part of the statue to a func_static then it proceeded further with the dmap before hanging. I'll try that again in a while and leave it running longer to see if it eventually succeeds.

 

I also exported it as a model. This worked but DR choked when I tried to create the model and it wasn't just the preview hanging but even when I created another static model and just pasted in the new model name it choked.

 

It may be that the only solution is to convert it into several models. If I were you this is what I'd do.

 

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• First, use layers for this sort of thing. It's then easier to hide the other stuff.
  
• Select sections of the statue separately and convert them to func_static, eg, an arm, a leg, a head, a torso. This might still not dmap but now create a separate test map and just load one section and test it separately. It may be there is some complexity or problem in one section that cannot be processed. If so, then break that section down further and repeat the above. It may be there is just one or two patches screwing it up that can be fixed.
  
• Finally, it might be you have to convert each section into a separate model using DR's exporter.
   
  

V E R Y impressive btw! This is the most staggering patchwork I have ever seen. This is easily the best 'organic' (for want of a better word) construction I have ever seen in DR. A mighty work.

 

Don't give up on this - it can be fixed I'm sure!

[Garreth]

I learned to build like this in secondlife back when i did not knew what a grid was i started modeling on the eye, this is a copy of my zeus statue, built it in about a half hour, more to come , i will narrow down the bug as you described.

Thanks

[Garreth]

Hmm it seems all the parts are causing leaks besides the arm wich i made into a mover door. that one works just fine, if i insert any of those func static parts the map is leaked.

Changing the other parts into moving doors, is not working either.

Edited March 20, 2011 by Garreth

[Tels]

Hmm it seems all the parts are causing leaks besides the arm wich i made into a mover door. that one works just fine, if i insert any of those func static parts the map is leaked.

 

This is usually because the origin of the func_static (which can actually be anywhere!) is outside the map. Try vertex node (press "v" in DR) and move the little green rectangle with the green/red/blue lines inside the geometry again.

[Garreth]

I think i am gona rebuild it and test after every patch.. this might be the easiest, i am still puzzled why the moving arm is working correctly, and why loose models appear all over the place when put in the map.

[Fidcal]

No, give me 15 or 20 minutes - I'll see if I can fix it. Be a shame to have to rebuild it all.

[Garreth]

I just saw that it takes long to map according to my calculation about 35 mins to dmap the entire statue i am gona see if it ever even finishes, i will wait for a hour or so if it did not do it after that, then i have no idea.

[Tels]

Just a note: if you have a truly complex func_static, then D3 will attempt to optimize it. That means all intersecting faces will split each other into subtriangles, these then get merged and optimized. That can take a VERY long time if you have a few 1000 tris in such a func_static.

[Fidcal]

I've now dmapped each section as func_statics separately and they all show in game. Now I've merged them together to see if they still dmap. If that fails then I'll try them as models. Give me another half an hour or hour.

[Fidcal]

Yes, it's all dmapped OK. I'll upload it for you soon. I still recommend though that you also try to export each func_static section as an ase. Make sure you set the option to create the origin at 0,0,0. Then when you re-create the models, copy the origins from the func_statics. Although I suspect this might not work precisely. If not you'll have to move into line by sight.

[Fidcal]

I've uploaded it to http://www.fidcal.com/TEMP/statue.zip

[Garreth]

Thank you thx alot, i should have known to put the origin on 0, i was even thinking about that... anyway this is awesome, it is in position working corectly.

[Garreth]

I have a few Func_ emitters i need switched on by trigger, but the wait for trigger and extinguished property is not working on it

[Fidcal]

Give them start_off 1 instead of wait for trigger.

[Garreth]

All the speakers radii radiusses are visible in my map now, i think i sat on my keyboard, how do i turn that off again

Edited March 28, 2011 by Garreth

[Fidcal]

There's a button on the top horizontal bar. Also probably a hot key as I think now everything can be defined.