City Concepts - Buildings

[kfmccall]

I moved all the city-environment concepts into a single thread for easier accessibility, they seemed to be a bit

scattered throughout the forums. I've also added another house concept and a possible guard house.

Suggestions are welcome.

 

 

Environment Concepts

 

 

 

 

 

 

Individual Buildings

 

3-Story Home

 

 

Backview

 

 

 

2-Story Home with large attic space.

 

 

Guard House

[Darkness_Falls]

Good concepts. A lot of those houses seem to be small, tight quarters, though -- which would make me kind've claustrophobic after a short while. For example, that tavern Dram created based from Spring's concept was kind've cramped inside. It's okay to have a few of those small houses, but I think it'd get repetitious to have so many of them. Granted, the concepts are maybe just for beta mappers... but if we ever release a more in-depth level, I hope mappers be careful with all the smallness.

 

I probably wouldn't notice if it I hadn't tried the Thief 2 fan mission called: UNE NUIT A ROCKSBOURG, Episode 1. All the hallways, stairways, houses, rooms, city streets/alleys, distances between houses, etc. are very tight/cramped so far from what I've played. I had to stop playing because it bothered me so much. It's a good quality production otherwise; I just got annoyed by all the tight quarters... which several of your concepts are reminiscent of.

 

Just my opinion, but maybe something to be mindful of in future concepts.

 

I actually don't know if this is something you'd need to worry about, or the mappers... or neither/both, considering we're just doing test maps. But if it ever goes beyond small test maps, I hope the size of most buildings are enlarged a bit.

[kfmccall]

you're right. I didn't consider movement by the player through the space too much and was focusing a bit too much on sillhouette and shape. I'll start expanding these buildings a bit.

[gleeful]

Edited!

 

Very nice concepts!

 

Could you possibly post bigger scans of the 2 above - I really like them but they strain my eyes.

 

Thanks for the updates!

[kfmccall]

I've updated the thread with the larger environment concepts. Be sure to take those smaller ones out of the post.

[kfmccall]

Here's a large tudor house. I guess this could be a town hall, or a large pub/inn.

 

[PinkDot]

I like the idea of rough sketch in diffrent, subtle colour. I just wonder what would your drawings look like if you used dark red or some kind of brown colour instead of blue... Have you ever tried to change this colour?

 

BTW: Could I post some of your sketches in polish Thief-Forum, in the thread dedicated to Dark Mod?

[kfmccall]

I have some red pencils as well, i could give them a shot.

 

I don't mind personally, but you're going to have to ask the development leads if they want to release any of the concepts first.

[sparhawk]

I don't see a problem with it. NH? What do you think?

[Darkness_Falls]

PinkDot wrote (aimed @ KF): I like the idea of rough sketch in diffrent, subtle colour. I just wonder what would your drawings look like if you used dark red or some kind of brown colour instead of blue...

Why have you wondered this? Just seems like an odd question to ask. Adjusting the colors in Photoshop would make them red/brown

[Darkness_Falls]

I don't see a problem with it. NH? What do you think?

I don't see why not either, considering models and screenshots go out without second thought, as well as many concept pieces posted on our home page. I'm not going to hide my concept art when what we're doing is volunteer-work and I can use the pieces to help expand my portfolio and make a name for myself. (Unless there's ever a piece in particular where someone says 'do not release yet'. But I can't imagine when that would ever justifiably happen...)

[sparhawk]

If the concepts are for upcoming maps, we should not release them all, and also it would be fine if we don't release everything at once, so we have something to show for times where we don't have so much. Principally you can do whatever you like with it and if it attracts ohter poeple who might help us, all the better.

[Darkness_Falls]

If we were still working on a proprietary campaign and maps for that, then I agree there'd need to be some secrecy surrounding that. But for test maps and other stuff we're working on now? I'm not sure why there'd be a need to be secretive at all. Everyone's seen a tavern, house, city street or mansion before...

[sparhawk]

I know that some people on the forum don't read many threads. So it may have escaped some people that we plan to release a playbale testmap in about two months and that the current concepts are helping to create it.

As I said I have no problem with releasing the concepts, but I think concepts that are used for such maps should rather be released when or after we released the maps.

[Darkness_Falls]

Gotcha, thanks. Yeah, I zoned out of these forums for a few weeks and missed that.

[kfmccall]

we might consider updating the moddb as well, that site gets a lot of visitors and i know i often go there to look for mods.

[PinkDot]

I don't mind personally

Thanks!

 

If the concepts are for upcoming maps, we should not release them all, and also it would be fine if we don't release everything at once, so we have something to show for times where we don't have so much.

As far as I'm up-to-date, that mission will take place in mansion and builder's forge. (which concepts I've seen and admired as well ). So I would like to put some of city concepts (for example first four from this thread). Is that OK?

 

Principally you can do whatever you like with it and if it attracts ohter poeple who might help us, all the better.

the purpose is at least to eliminate all doubting Thomases...

[kfmccall]

can you post the link for the polish forums? I would like to see the public's opinion.

[PinkDot]

Here's the link to my post with your drawings (My nick is 'Juliusz'). The post is in the main thread dedicated to The Dark Mod.

http://thief-forum.ehost.pl/viewtopic.php?p=61986#61986

 

If for some reason you have problems with understanding polish language , I can translate people's opinions.

[kfmccall]

haha yeah, i didnt think of that, it's ok though, online translators work somewhat.

[kfmccall]

Here is another tudor styled house. This one is atleast 3 stories (not including the attic), if the lowest story is a higher than usual roof. I'll work on some weather-torn buildings next.

 

[Dram]

Here is another tudor styled house. This one is atleast 3 stories (not including the attic), if the lowest story is a higher than usual roof. I'll work on some weather-torn buildings next.

 

VERY nice KF, I especially like the little wooden balcony thing you put there

[kfmccall]

thanks dram. I'm always open to architectural suggestions, really even a few words about some added aspect of the building that you may have in mind will undoubtedly spark a bunch of visuals for me to work with.

 

everyone should feel free to throw in their opinion. i'm hardly the architect, so criticize my drawings and maybe i'll get there a little bit quicker.

 

 

really though, i thrive on my mistakes.

[Darkness_Falls]

Yes, I like it when you add nooks, crannies and extensions/add-ons to your buildings. Also, I struggling with creating interior concepts for Dram. I hope you can try for him some interior mood scenes.

[kfmccall]

do you mean the specific interiors for that mansion floorlpan? Or interiors for these tudor buildings?