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Sorry to make another topic so soon but after playing a couple of missions earlyer tonight i noticed that after i had stolen a key from someone they where still able to open the locked door they not longer had the key to, is this intended, overlooked, or perhaps a bug? I would sure like to be able to lock pursuing guards in a room and other such shenanigans.

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Mmm... I think we have two ways to enable guards to unlock doors. One is without a key (it is assumed to be in his pocket out of sight) and the other is to give him a key. Generally we use the first so it may have been used even though he also had a key.

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That's usually done as a gameplay concession to avoid guards walking continuously into obstacles in a futile pathfinding attempt (which I suppose they would do in TDM just like TDP/TMA games).

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That's usually done as a gameplay concession to avoid guards walking continuously into obstacles in a futile pathfinding attempt (which I suppose they would do in TDM just like TDP/TMA games).

 

Nope, there are just two ways of doing it. :)

 

If the mappers chooses to use option number 2, where the key is in sight...the AI will just be locked inside. I don't know if code yet exists for them to stop trying to get out after a few tries, but it will probably exist in the future.

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Also note that if an AI cannot patrol through a locked door he will seek an alternate route if there is one or if not, look for the next patrol point after that and so on. I had an AI walk entirely around my mansion and approach from the opposite direction! Bit of a shock when I wasn't expecting him!

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Nope, there are just two ways of doing it. :)

 

If the mappers chooses to use option number 2, where the key is in sight...the AI will just be locked inside. I don't know if code yet exists for them to stop trying to get out after a few tries, but it will probably exist in the future.

 

Are you saying it should work like that right now? Or do you mean in the future?

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Also note that if an AI cannot patrol through a locked door he will seek an alternate route if there is one or if not, look for the next patrol point after that and so on. I had an AI walk entirely around my mansion and approach from the opposite direction! Bit of a shock when I wasn't expecting him!

 

Awesome. :D

 

shenanigans

 

Funny. :ph34r::D

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Are you saying it should work like that right now? Or do you mean in the future?

It is already possible to lock AI in a room but it depends how the FM creator has set it up. If he gives an AI absolute power to unlock a door then you can't do it. But if he only gives him the key and you take it then you can lock him in. At least, I'm very certain; I'd have to test it to be positive. :)

 

See: http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Doors#AI_Door_management

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