Modelling My First Head

[sparhawk]

Maybe it's the way how the image was composited, because this thumb appears better. But it's hard to say since it is angled. It still looks really good, though. Actually I expected such work only from Oddity.

 

How long did you take for him?

[BlackThief]

well the pupils will have to be done seperate anyway so this won't be a problem as I've seen the guys at id actually copied the tris of the eye and moved them forward a bit, then applied a seperate material to it - so that the pupils can move.

[BlackThief]

the highpoly model took me quite a while - especially the ears, because I wanted to do them perfectly. I don't count every second but I guess the highpoly head took me at least 15-20 hours. Moddeling of the lowpoly wasn't that extensive, maybe 8 hours including all tweaking etc, but the unwrapping and texturing took me quite a while, eventhough the texture is heavily photosourced. (I'm not such a good hand-painter, especially when it comes to organic stuff, but I actually don't mind, because I like photo-sourced textures a lot more than those handpainted ones, unless they are really uber good!)

[Domarius]

I think the photo based texture makes a huge difference. But I can also see the difference in the shape of the face since last time, and I think that is also a decent improvement.

 

It's looking great now.

[BlackThief]

Looks like a thug or a house guard.

 

thought I should try to give this guy a body as well and as Oddity suggested I made him a thug or servant.

Made this rather quick, so a lot of parts still need some work (especially the arms). I'll probably make the lowpoly this weekend, just to see how it turns out in d3.

 

[sparhawk]

Looks pretty good to me.

[Springheel]

Yep, looks like a good townsfolk model.

[Dram]

very nice, just i think the les below the knee are a bit too far back, but other then that its excellent

[Domarius]

My only concern is the hands, they look a bit claw-y, and the fingers look mostly the same length. But this could be due to the pose and the camera angle, I can't really tell without another view.

[BlackThief]

oh yes the hands, forgot to say that I just copied the hands from the builder-statue I started some time ago. that's because I want to use the hands + their textures that oddity is using for his models, which look already perfect ingame. there's no need to reinvent the wheel, right?

[BlackThief]

ok finished the lowpoly, it weights around 4000tris (including head+hands). I used the hands oddity's using for his models (hope you don't mind oddity), however they made the polycount really explode, they are 1000tris alone!

 

before unwrapping the whole shit I'd like to get some feedback, especially if there will be any problems with deformations when animating it.

 

 

 

[in case you're wondering why the legs are tris: I accidentally converted the polys to tris and overwrote the file]

 

if you think the quality isn't good enough for the mod, it's ok for me. I've never done a lowpoly character-model before, so I really learned a lot making this model.

[oDDity]

I can't say if it's good enough for the game until its textured and in-game.

The head looks a lot better textured than as a wireframe shaded model.

I can see a lot of unnecessary geometry in there.

For example, each limb section only needs one loop, while you have two or three. You also have too many lines flowng down the length of the arms, legs and body..

As long as you keep it 5k at the most, though 4 would be better since it's not a complicated mesh.

That cape-thing is goign to be impossible for animating. At least put a split in the front of it, or bring in it a bit to the shoulders.

[BlackThief]

it's around 400tris with everything tripled (already wrote that in the post before). I'll try to optimize it now, probably I'll be able to cut it down around 3800.

[oDDity]

4000 is ok.

AS for the hands, I'm goign to switch to using the hands from the doom player model. They are very simple, just a thumb and a forefinger, with the other three fingers welded together, but they are only 100 polys each.

We don't really need a fully articulated 5 fingered hand with three joints each.

THat will mean a saving of 800 polys per charcater.

[oDDity]

Another general point is that the proportions are a bit wonky, just like your head model.

I know people are all shaped differently, but the proportions aren't right even relative to this charcater. They just don't look asthetically pleasing.

[BlackThief]

proportions look at least 95% ok in comparison to da vinci - the arms are maybe a little too short in relation to the legs. I'll fix that....

 

[Springheel]

The torso is also a bit too wide, though that might stand out less if the arms are lengthened.

[BlackThief]

well I made it wider, because he's wearing some kind of tunic and I thought they looked pretty wide at the upper torso.

 

thank's for your crits though, always appreciated

[Springheel]

In that case you'd need to cinch in the waist a bit. If you made the belt 'tighter' then it will look like it's the tunic that's bulky and not him.