Some Models Showing Black

[Springheel]

There are a few models that are showing up black in the editor. Some of these I noticed before the reorganization, but some may be a result of something I moved. Either way, if you're the one who uploaded these, please point me to the right .mtr file.

 

crate01.lwo

crate02.lwo

 

font1.lwo

 

castironsign1.lwo

[Fingernail]

the font and the castironsign are mine.

 

fountain.mtr for the font, have you got that file?

 

sign seems broken, it needs a new mtr file, and I'm not sure where the texture is.... do you not have ironsign1_etc.tgas in your textures folder?

[Springheel]

Nope, there's no fountain.mtr in the materials folder. The ironsign textures are there in props/textures.

 

Can you add an entry for the fountain in decorative_oversize.mtr and the ironsign material in decorative_wall.mtr? Thanks.

[Fingernail]

guh, time for a CVS update, I have neither of those mtrs yet.

[Springheel]

Hmm, I've noticed a bit of a problem. After the reorganization, some of the models that didn't show black previously now do, and I can't figure out why. Everything seems to be changed to point to the right folders, yet they're still appearing as black.

 

For example, vase1.lwo was moved from models/props/flowers to models/darkmod/props/decorative

 

The old material file read:

 

models/props/textres/vase1

 

{

noselfshadow

 

diffusemap models/props/textures/vase1_d.tga

specularmap models/props/textures/vase1_s.tga

 

}

 

The new one reads:

 

models/props/textres/vase1

{

noselfshadow

diffusemap models/darkmod/props/textures/vase1_d.tga

specularmap models/darkmod/props/textures/vase1_s.tga

}

 

I checked, and yes, the .tga files are in the right folders. Am I missing something obvious? This is one of about a dozen or so that seem to be black for no reason I can see. I can't think of anything else that has changed (other than the name of the .mtr file, but that shouldn't matter at all).

 

I could use some help with this, as I'm stumped.

 

The models that have this problem are:

 

props/decorative/orchid.lwo

props/decorative/vase1.lwo

props/junk/wbottle01_broken.lwo

props/kitchen/cookpot.lwo

props/readables/bookrow1.lwo

door_related/gkey1.lwo

door_related/skey1.lwo

 

everything else is either fine or was black before the restructure.

[oDDity]

It might be the typo.

It says 'textres' instead of 'textures' in the path name..

 

edit: It's not, the material in the object has the same typo.

[Springheel]

A couple of them had improper folders and I was able to fix those. But these ones continue to show black and I'm not sure why. I know for sure the top two were working before the restructuring.

 

props/decorative/orchid.lwo

props/decorative/vase1.lwo

door_related/gkey1.lwo

door_related/skey1.lwo

architecture/rail1.lwo

architecture/dome1.lwo -- most of the textures show up, but the railing wood does not.

[New Horizon]

A couple of them had improper folders and I was able to fix those. But these ones continue to show black and I'm not sure why. I know for sure the top two were working before the restructuring.

 

props/decorative/orchid.lwo

props/decorative/vase1.lwo

door_related/gkey1.lwo

door_related/skey1.lwo

 

Did you physically move the textures folder as well? All the models were hard coded to

models/props/textures/texture.tga within lightwave, so that you could bascially move a model anywhere and it would still find the texture but if the folder itself has been moved....eek. I didn't think you were moving the textures in the reorg, otherwise I would have mentioned that this would cause problems. No worries, it's not much work for me to go through and check all the models once I sync up with CVS again. It's best to keep the textures in the new structure. I'll take care of it.

[Springheel]

Hmm, it only seems to be those models. The rest are fine.

 

If you mean the material file points to the textures, I've changed all those to fit the new path.

[New Horizon]

Hmm, it only seems to be those models. The rest are fine.

 

If you mean the material file points to the textures, I've changed all those to fit the new path.

 

Strange that some would work and others not. The only way I resolved the black model issue before was to edit the pathnames in the model itself. I'll take a look at the first of the week all the same.

[Springheel]

As it was explained to me, the model is hardcoded to point to a material 'title'. This title could be 'models/props/vase1' or it could just be 'tx2vase1' or whatever. Somewhere in a .mtr file (of any name) is an entry with the same title. This entry points to the specific textures to be used on that model.

 

If that's all true, then I can't figure out why those ones aren't working when all the rest are.

[sparhawk]

Did you compare the slashes? I had the impression that it doesn't matter which way they are, but they must be the same in the material and the object.

[SneaksieDave]

I'm trying to remember here, but could it possibly be the issue of which editor was used? IIRC, there was a problem with using notepad for these, and instead a non-windows-shit real editor was needed, so as not to chop or add some characters.

[Springheel]

@Spar: Yeah, I got burned with that before...I don't think that's the problem here, but I'll double check.

 

@Sneaksie: I'm using ConText, and none of the other changes have caused problems, so I don't think that's it.

[Springheel]

Just wanted to update here. The following models still show black (no texture):

 

crate01.lwo

crate02.lwo

 

font1.lwo

 

castironsign1.lwo

 

 

Finger, I'll add the .mtr myself if you just give me the name of the material for the last two.

 

All of the models in the pipekit also currently show black, even though there's a material file for them.

 

 

These models used to work, but now have no texture since the reorganization:

 

props/decorative/orchid.lwo

props/decorative/vase1.lwo

architecture/rail1.lwo

architecture/dome1.lwo -- most of the textures show up, but the railing wood does not.

 

edit: Finger and I managed to fix the sign-holder. The rest are still black.