Place Your Bets On Ford's Future

[Unstoppable]

I'll be glad if they go bankrupt consider how they've made cars for the last two decades. Simply the worst resale you can do to another owner and parts that breakdown unlike any other company i've ever heard about. Just google how many Ford fraud and complaints there have been. Now they are pimping their lil Ford Fusion.

 

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fusionchalleng...45-0353611763F2

 

Sure it might handle better then the Camry and Accord but how long will it last you? I'm willing to bet not as long as both of the other two options. Yes i'm putting Ford down but they deserve it. They can make all their cars higher MPG but refuse to due to oil company $$$$ in their pockets. Never ever buying a Ford. Was considering a Shelby GT 500 but told myself bleh why bother it's a Ford. I also absolutely am disgusted by their logo. I share no hatred toward them though.

 

They're desperate though and they put themselves in this situation for the way they've treated the consumer. Ever hear of someone always having to bring their Ford back after repairs. They always take the cheapest and fastest way out.

 

In conclusion show me an American Car not Truck worth buying that is at least equal to a Japanese counterpart. Is there such a thing? Sadly I don't think so. Not a purposely made rant. I'm interested in hearing everyone elses experiences with American Cars. Thanks.

 

p.s.

Saturns suck. Here's a lil fire to get thing started!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ford+SUCKS

 

Woot ford loses frivoulus lawsuit!

http://www.fordreallysucks.com/update.html

 

Great site

http://www.tgrigsby.com/views/ford.htm

Edited February 18, 2007 by Unstoppable

[Komag]

okay, so GM are saints? Toyota? I think probably they are all similar, and all not as bad as you say Ford is

[Unstoppable]

I never claimed anyone was a saint. However Ford's history dosen't lie. For a company to still be in business after all they have done to consumers and caused is just plain shameful.

[demagogue]

Well at least they've moved on from blatant antisemitism. Give them a little credit.

 

 

Edit: In all seriousness, though, I can't have that much sympathy with Ford cars after I was driving my Dad's Taurus and in the middle of driving on a highway it started emitting noxious yellow fumes out of the air conditioning, blinding me to the road, as the engine started loudly knocking and sputtering. Scary as hell. I had to stick my head out the window, slow down and pull over with my eyes still stinging! And then I was late for work and had to make them believe my story, lol.

Edited February 18, 2007 by demagogue

[SneaksieDave]

Ah, so you're seeking (based on the other thread) a reliable economy American car? Funny that you're mentioning ford, because the well known and true answer is the escort. That's one of the most purchased, reliable, and trouble-free cars out there, and you can probably find old ones (since they're not made anymore) for $3K and lower. Don't beat it up and it'll last for a very long time, and without trips to the garage throughout.

[Maximius]

We were looking at buying a car a few months back, and I did some research on safety. IIRC no American cars were in the top 3 for safety, that was Volkswagen, Mitsubishi, Honda, with some others in the luxury classes. Im not buying, in fact I rarely allow myself to ride in, cars without curtain style side air bags. Just that one feature lowers the rate of mortality in an accident by around a third.

[Domarius]

Ah I thought this thread would be about the new Indiana Jones movie, hehe

 

Don't mind me. As you were.

[Nyarlathotep]

We were looking at buying a car a few months back, and I did some research on safety. IIRC no American cars were in the top 3 for safety, that was Volkswagen, Mitsubishi, Honda, with some others in the luxury classes. Im not buying, in fact I rarely allow myself to ride in, cars without curtain style side air bags. Just that one feature lowers the rate of mortality in an accident by around a third.

I'm surprised that the perennial safety favorite Volvo wasn't in the top three. As for Hondas, my parents bought the base model Fit last year. That is one freaking sweet car. I just wish my mother wouldn't insist on referring to it as her "pocket rocket." When I'm driving or riding in it, I love pretending that the future of cars will look something like it: compact, roomy, fuel-efficient, quiet, and handling almost like a sports car.

 

American cars could easily reenter the lead if they focused on making cars so much the better, and let themselves use advanced new technology. For example, switching over to composites (instead of steels) would have a relatively large upfront cost but would make the cars more fuel-efficient (about half the weight), safer (stronger) and cheaper (fewer parts, and no need for the complex painting process). Secondly, they need to focus on providing alternative fuel support to all their vehicles (such as making sure all of their vehicles can run E85 or biodiesel). Simply put, if American car manufacturers focused on making cars more fuel efficient, safer, and so forth, it would greatly help their image. A lot of manufacturers are concerned with developing the car of 2050 (including GE), but so few American manufacturers are concerning themselves with the intermediate cars.

 

Surprisingly enough, a good example of the correct line of thinking is demonstrated in another American project: the Future Forces project. It's designed to envision the army (really though, it's becoming much more of a joint forces project) of approximately 2032, leveraging technologies that are only just coming off the drawing board now. However, the Army knows that creating the Future Force Warrior is not enough. It also has to create the next army, not just the "Army After Next." Thus, we have the Land Warrior system, which intends to bridge the gap between the army that's currently losing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the one that will be deployed in 2032. The Future Force Warrior is a host of technologies that are seemly outrageous today (but extensions of what we can do today), but Land Warrior is built from the ground up of technologies that can be put on the battlefield today (and is actually being tested in combat as we converse). What is so impressive is that it exemplifies the sort of forward thinking that the American populace does far too little of today, and exactly the sort that American car manufacturers need.</soapbox>

[Unstoppable]

Hm the future forces project is interesting but who knows what kind of climate conditions the year 2032 will be. It's so far off. I'm willing to bet they will have to scrap a lot of projects and just make the average joe able to survive in the weather and global climate conditions due to global warming.

[Macsen]

I've interviewed the vice president, seemed like a nice enough guy.

[Nyarlathotep]

Hm the future forces project is interesting but who knows what kind of climate conditions the year 2032 will be. It's so far off. I'm willing to bet they will have to scrap a lot of projects and just make the average joe able to survive in the weather and global climate conditions due to global warming.

You can make a lot of reasonable extrapolations to 2032. No disaster short of an apocalypse is going to change the battlefield appreciably in 25 years. The only thing that could alter the battlefield in an unpredictable way is is a radically new technology, and one that hasn't been predicted. Furthermore, the Future Forces program doesn't try to design the "Army After Next" per se, but rather, it tries to introduce a a host of technologies that will be invaluable to said army. It's not an exercise in pure fantasy, imagining that flying cars will be commonplace fifty years from now, but it is trying to pick technologies that will be mature in 25 years, and can produce technologies we know will be useful. The Future Forces program is designed to be as flexible as possible, while still remaining a useful prediction.

 

I've interviewed the vice president, seemed like a nice enough guy.

That's probably because you've never been hunting with him.

[Gildoran]

I've interviewed the vice president, seemed like a nice enough guy.

That's probably because you've never been hunting with him.

Just to clarify... Macsen, were you talking about the vice president of the Future Forces project?

[Macsen]

Just to clarify... Macsen, were you talking about the vice president of the Future Forces project?

No, the vice president of Ford. I have no idea what 'Future Forces' is.

[SneaksieDave]

You interviewed president Ford about his vices?!

[Nyarlathotep]

No, the vice president of Ford. I have no idea what 'Future Forces' is.

Oops, wrong vice president. As for the Future Forces project, I couldn't remember the name of it--or even whether it had a name--and just named it that randomly. Thanks to the magic of Wikipedia, I now know it's Future Combat Systems.

[Macsen]

You interviewed president Ford about his vices?!

A nice state of affairs when a man has to indulge his vice presidents by proxy.