New Mansion Pack Requests

[BlackThief]

the barrel - textured.

Edited December 22, 2004 by BlackThief

[BlackThief]

now question is, how to make the top. ATM it looks like that - this way the texture is as highres as possible, cauze the top uses the same texture as the rest. the disadavantage is, that it has no border around it...

question now is - more highres texture or more realism ?

Edited December 22, 2004 by BlackThief

[_Atti_]

i think it should look like that:

red:wood planking

black:metal ring

[BlackThief]

maybe it'd be better to make it more lowpoly and model the top. this way the texture could stay the same, but the top would look more realistic.

eventhough T3 is rather ugly (actually I was really surprised HOW ugly T3 is, when I took that screenshot some minutes ago) their barrels have a modeled top, but don't have so much sides.

 

http://www.dark-project.com/BlackThief/thief3_barrel.jpg

 

so Atti can u plze make the shape like the T3 barrel and reduce the number of sides ?

[BlackThief]

i think it should look like that:

red:wood planking

black:metal ring

well I think it's rather unimportant how many rings it has do a google search and you'll see all variations

 

edit: ah, nevermind. now I know what you mean I'll change it

Edited December 22, 2004 by BlackThief

[_Atti_]

how about that?

the red shows the part the heightchange that will be simulated with normalmap

the grey is the metal ring..

 

ugly picture:)hope you get the idea:)

[_Atti_]

well I think it's rather unimportant how many rings it has do a google search and you'll see all variations

 

edit: ah, nevermind. now I know what you mean I'll change it

yea i nkow there are many variation but their position is essential because of the normal map'S highpoly source

[BlackThief]

yea i nkow there are many variation but their position is essential because of the normal map'S highpoly source

well I'll make the normalmap myself with PS anyway

[_Atti_]

[BlackThief]

there's a nvidia photoshop-plugin for normalmaps

 

so can u plze make it with a lower number of sides, but with a modeled top ?

I'd prefer this, cauze normalmaps don't look as nice anyway, when you look from the side. I'd suggest 10 sides for the barrel - that's enough.

Edited December 22, 2004 by BlackThief

[_Atti_]

nah that red area dont have to be much deep..

and 10 sided barrel would look silly maybe it would be good for the more cylindrical version but not for that...i think

..i hink you should try applying the normal map

it will look good..

Edited December 22, 2004 by _Atti_

[sparhawk]

nah that red area dont have to be much deep..

and 10 sided barrel would look silly maybe it would be good for the more cylindrical version but not for that...i think

..i hink you should try applying the normal map

it will look good..

The top of the barrel will be flat anyway and it shouldn't. A normal map doesn't work sideways. So it is better to create some geometry for the top to make it more bumpy.

[_Atti_]

ok i modified it..(on the ftp..)

but i didnt reduce its roundness..

god i dont want to see 10sided barrels....itsnot that much resourcekiller anyway

[BlackThief]

hope you don't mind, that I made the barrel myself. yours had more than 360 triangles - I think that's not worth for such a simple object, as a barrel.

 

here's mine in blender:

 

and here ingame...

Edited December 22, 2004 by BlackThief

[Springheel]

Looks good BT. But those metal bands are crying out for some studs.

[BlackThief]

Looks good BT.  But those metal bands are crying out for some studs.

thx. guess your're right. going to add some studs...

[SneaksieDave]

/OT

Not to hijack, just a quick interruption because looking at your in-game shot reminded me. The textures that are listed in the new materials - are they going up soon (or are they already there and my winCVS isn't synching properly?)

[BlackThief]

/OT

Not to hijack, just a quick interruption because looking at your in-game shot reminded me.   The textures that are listed in the new materials - are they going up soon (or are they already there and my winCVS isn't synching properly?)

I already uploaded some of them, but not all.

 

spring - added studs - better ?

[Springheel]

Yep, very nice BT. The shape looks a little warped, but I assume that's just the perspective of the ingame camera.

[sparhawk]

Yep, very nice BT. The shape looks a little warped, but I assume that's just the perspective of the ingame camera.

Isn't it a bit big?

[Springheel]

Barrels are usally about three or four feet high, so that looks about right. One question...will they roll effectively with that number of polys?

[BlackThief]

Isn't it a bit big?

I think that's just the perspective. I made it about the same size, as T2 barrels. of course we can make several versions of it.

[sparhawk]

http://www.derbesonderegarten.de/Slideshow...iten/Bild5.html

 

http://www.derbesonderegarten.de/Slideshows/Fass/Fass.html

 

And here is a good one for a tavern:

http://www.ifye.de/images/199902/fass.jpg

[BlackThief]

http://www.derbesonderegarten.de/Slideshows/Fass/Fass.html

IMHO it almost has the same shape as this one...

 

anyway here a screenshot of a T2 barrel - they are even a bit higher than mine:

http://www.dark-project.com/BlackThief/t2_barrel.jpg

[_Atti_]

hope you don't mind, that I made the barrel myself. yours had more than 360 triangles - I think that's not worth for such a simple object, as a barrel.

 

here's mine in blender:

 

and here ingame...

Khmm.... i told you that i would reduce the segments if it were a more cylindrical designed barrel just like the one you made...

but my variation with 10 sides would look damn ugly...

also..since we are mostly in interiors i dont think that we will ever reach the critical poly/frame so a damn barrel that is round wont kill the fps..even if we pile a room full with it(which we i presume, wont do..)

 

i am doing anything gladly if needed but hey ..who likes to waste time?