gnartsch Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 The internal downloader is basicly suffering from the lack of a better mission versioning system.(and in a few cases from the authors who do not even provide a proper version info). I pointed out the issues here a while ago, along with a solution that should not cause all that much trouble to implement - I guess.I would really wish that the limitations would be eliminated, because having to scan the forums for new versions isn't all that much fun.And then having to download them manually, although the new version is even on the mirrors because the downloader isn't aware that there is a newer version on the official mirrors isn't much fun either. @Springheel: for sure you did not see an update coming in for Vengeance of a Thief part1 & 2, although you might have noticed part 3 as a new mission.Part 1 & 2 are still reading version 1 and therefor will never find their way to my computer as a simple, straight forward update. @Florian: I am not aware of SiegeShop v4. Neither the official mirrors nor the corresponding threads point me to such a version.But you are right.There are many updates which can only be obtained manually by either deleting the mission from disc and then running the internal downloader - or by downloading them manually. Simply because the simple integer versioning of missions does not give the internal downloader a chance to do its job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted February 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 v06 of the tool is out ! http://www.gnartsch.de/Download/TDMMissionDbCheck_0.6.zip Simply extract somewhere and make sure you have Java v 1.6 or higher installed. New feature:call it with your fms folder specified in order to have your local FMs checked against the version(s) on the server. TDMMissionDbCheck.bat d:\games\darkmod\fms Note that issues with local fms go to the console window only, whereas the results of checking the consistency of the official FM mirrors goes into the file analysis.txt If you receive something like the following in the console window, then you know that your local copy is either behind or ahead of what is available on the official mirrors. Mission # 75 - vfat2 : Vengeance for a Thief Part 2Mismatching local FM size! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nice, downloading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) @Florian: I am not aware of SiegeShop v4. Neither the official mirrors nor the corresponding threads point me to such a version. Regading Siege Shop: I just used your own update site and clicked on the link: now the mission got updated again with a date of February 21, 2015 (version 4) - it seems as if PranQster updates it daily without telling anyone Edited February 23, 2015 by Florian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ah, the directors cut version has been updated yet another time.Thanks for the notice!Just a note: the author wishes to have the regular version to be considered to be official version, which is still at v3.http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/15117-final-tuned-version-fm-the-siege-shop-v3-by-pranqster-and-lowenz-2014209/page-5?do=findComment&comment=362412The directors cut is a stripped down version for weak systems and din't make it to the TDM site by purpose, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Revisiting my post from last week: MISSION # 13 : returntothecity, "Talbot 2: Return to the City" by Melan & Bikerdude2 links are outdated and refer to an older version.Interesting. I did not see that update being announced. Anyway, the updated version is found on one mirror only. http://darkmod.taaaki.za.net/fms/returntothecityv3.pk4 Size: 33.9 MB (35597213) Last update: Sat Jan 03 21:05:23 CET 2015 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/returntothecityv3.pk4 Size: 35.8 MB (37557302) Last update: Sun Sep 08 18:03:42 CEST 2013 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/returntothecityv3.pk4 Size: 35.8 MB (37557302) Last update: Fri Oct 04 23:41:24 CEST 2013 The correct versions are here: http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/returntothecityv3.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/returntothecityv3.pk4So, the list of mirrors needs to be corrected. In case some general cleanup would make sense to eradicate the confusion about having regular mission folders for FMs and those irky TDM2testmissions folders, here is a list of all valid & up-to-date FM links from the list of mirrors which still live under TDM2testmissions.Maybe those files should be MOVED to their parent folders and the mirrors list to be updated accordingly.Might make dealing with with future mission updates much easier. http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/antr.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/antr.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/storm.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/storm.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/business3.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/business3.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/closemouthed_shadows.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/closemouthed_shadows.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/crystalgrave2_1.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/crystalgrave2_1.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/crystalgravev2_l10n.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/blackbog.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/blackbog.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/oldhabits1.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/oldhabits1.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/oldhabits2.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/oldhabits2.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/patently_dangerous_v2.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/patently_dangerous_v2.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/requiem.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/requiem.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/samhain.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/samhain.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/flakebridge.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/flakebridge.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/siegeshop.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/siegeshop.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/caduceus.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/caduceus.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/thecreeps.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/thecreeps.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/rift.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/rift.pk4 http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/TDM2testmissions/glenham.pk4 http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/TDM2testmissions/glenham.pk4 Edited February 28, 2015 by gnartsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah, removal of that folder is on my TODO list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah, removal of that folder is on my TODO list.Done,can you run your tool on the mirrors and see if there are any descrepencies. see which mission have l10n files on the mirrors but aren't listed on the FM page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) 1. Sure.2. No. That's something the tools isn't designed to check. It doesn't care about what is found somewhere on any mirror, but only checks the mission mirrors.If not l10n files are specified there, it won't bother at all. You can right click this link, save the mirror listing directly from the server to disc and inspect it using a text editor.But as a regular player, I do not have access to all mirrors to view the directories. Ok, regarding 1) there are a few issues visible now. PS: I can't tell you how much I hate the forum formatting.Either links appear crumbled and non-readable or the coloring and highlighting is gone. Checking mission # 72 : Not An Ordinary Guest PROBLEM: Duplicate mission/localization download links detected between this mission (# 72 : Not An Ordinary Guest) and mission (# 64 : Old Habits 1) http://darkmod.taaaki.za.net/fms/oldhabits1.pk4 --> How did that get in there ? Checking mission # 6 : Patently Dangerous PROBLEM: Dead mission download links detected ! Problems detected ! http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/patently_dangerous_v2.pk4 --> Dead link Checking mission # 22 : Special Delivery PROBLEM: Localization file has the same size as the mission ! Problems detected ! http://darkmod.taaaki.za.net/fms/delivery.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/delivery.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/delivery.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) PROBLEM: Localization file has the same size as the mission ! http://darkmod.taaaki.za.net/fms/delivery_l10n.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/delivery_l10n.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/delivery_l10n.pk4 Size: 1.6 MB (1699343) --> All those l10n files should be dropped. They are identical to the actual mission and therefor useless. (Not a new problem. Was reported before already.) Checking mission # 27 : Thomas Porter 3: Glenham Tower PROBLEM: Dead mission download links detected ! Problems detected ! http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/glenham.pk4 --> Dead link Checking mission # 65 : William Steele 1: In the North PROBLEM: Mismatching file sizes for localization download detected ! Problems detected ! http://swift-mazes.com/fms/ws1_north_l10n.pk4 --> Dead link Checking mission # 85 : A Reputation to Uphold WARNING: Less then 2 mission download links detected ! Only 1 mirror Checking mission # 56 : House of Theo WARNING: Less then 2 localization download links detected ! Only 1 mirror for l10n Edited February 28, 2015 by gnartsch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) As far as your question 2 is concerned:I can neither look at fidcal, not at taakis server.However I see the following on southquarter, which did not make it into the mirrors list ever.But I can't tell you WHY they never got added there. http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/ alchemist_l10n.pk4antr_l10n.pk4betrayal_l10n.pk4blackbog_l10n.pk4claw_l10n.pk4closemouthed_shadows_l10n.pk4fauchard_l10n.pk4flakebridge_l10n.pk4glenham_tower_l10n.pk4holetower_l10n.pk4kneipe24_l10n.pk4 (should read sneak_destroy_l10n.pk4 by noe ?)knighton_manor_l10n.pk4living_expenses_l10n.pk4lockdown1_2_1_l10n.pk4madmountain_l10n.pk4mandrasola_l10n.pk4outpost_l10n.pk4pandoras_box_l10n.pk4parcel_l10n.pk4patently_dangerous_l10n.pk4phrase_book_l10n.pk4rake_off_l10n.pk4remembrance_l10n.pk4ReturnToTheCityV2_l10n.pk4rift_l10n.pk4rightful_l10n.pk4samhain_l10n.pk4siegeshop_l10n.pk4somewhere1.1_l10n.pk4sons_of_baltona_1_l10n.pk4stalban_l10n.pk4storm_l10n.pk4swing_v1_2_l10n.pk4thecreeps_l10n.pk4thiefs_den_l10n.pk4training_mission_l10n.pk4transaction_l10n.pk4vfat1_l10n.pk4winterharvest_l10n.pk4 Edited February 28, 2015 by gnartsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Taaaki's server is the one that I look to as the master, so if the fidcal/southgate mirrors are wrong then I copy the files from taaaki's to there. On the above bugs, I will fix them later today. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Don't hink there is anything wrong on southquarter, apart from the bugs I pointed to. All those l10n files on southquarter are probably result of the internationalization project, which came to a halt.But one should absolutely NOT DELETE them, even if the missions did not get released with them.Better move them to special l10n backup folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 But one should absolutely NOT DELETE them, even if the missions did not get released with them.There was never any intention or reason to delete them, the plan is to always create l10n files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 I know that my previous posts were lengthy, but is there any chance to fix at least this issue`? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Thanks!But that new link is dead.http://darkmod.taaaki.za.net/fms/noag.pk4Anyway the situation has been improved significantly.At least people don't get the wrong mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Typo on my part, was noag instead of naog. Link working now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 As Araneidae reported in the TDM Tech Support forum, several mirrors for "Thief's Den" are outdated. Fidcal : http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/thiefsden.pk4Southquarter : http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/thiefsden.pk4 Taaki and SwiftMaze seem fine. I still don't understand why L10N files are listed for 'Special Delivery', since they are identical to the actual mission PK4, but that's another story. BTW: version 0.64 of the tool is up.Among other things, it takes account for the fact that filesizes for the SwiftMaze mirror can not be determined at all.So, it's basicly ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Ta, will sort this out this evening. Re:swiftmazes, Tels will havew to have a look at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 As Araneidae reported in the TDM Tech Support forum, several mirrors for "Thief's Den" are outdated. Fidcal : http://www.fidcal.com/darkuser/missions/thiefsden.pk4Southquarter : http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/thiefsden.pk4 Taaki and SwiftMaze seem fine. BTW: version 0.64 of the tool is up.Among other things, it takes account for the fact that filesizes for the SwiftMaze mirror can not be determined at all.So, it's basicly ignored. Not sure what you mean by that: $ curl --head http://swift-mazes.com/fms/antr.pk4 HTTP/1.1 200 OKDate: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:12:50 GMTServer: Apache/2.2.29Last-Modified: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:49:31 GMTETag: "1f86b35-4e840e7c76cc0"Accept-Ranges: bytesContent-Length: 33057589Content-Type: application/octet-stream As for Thief's Den, swift-mazes syncs from taaki, so it is expected both are up-to-date. There was, or is, however some confusion about the naming: [ ] thiefs_den_l10n.pk4 24-Jan-2014 16:08 110K [ ] thiefsden.pk4 12-Apr-2014 18:22 3.3M [ ] thiefsden_l10n.pk4 24-Jan-2014 16:08 110K Is "thiefsden.pk4" or "thiefs_den.pk4" the actual name? Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 As far as your question 2 is concerned:I can neither look at fidcal, not at taakis server.However I see the following on southquarter, which did not make it into the mirrors list ever.But I can't tell you WHY they never got added there. http://www.southquarter.com/tdm/fms/ alchemist_l10n.pk4antr_l10n.pk4betrayal_l10n.pk4blackbog_l10n.pk4claw_l10n.pk4closemouthed_shadows_l10n.pk4fauchard_l10n.pk4flakebridge_l10n.pk4glenham_tower_l10n.pk4holetower_l10n.pk4kneipe24_l10n.pk4 (should read sneak_destroy_l10n.pk4 by noe ?)knighton_manor_l10n.pk4living_expenses_l10n.pk4lockdown1_2_1_l10n.pk4madmountain_l10n.pk4mandrasola_l10n.pk4outpost_l10n.pk4pandoras_box_l10n.pk4parcel_l10n.pk4patently_dangerous_l10n.pk4phrase_book_l10n.pk4rake_off_l10n.pk4remembrance_l10n.pk4ReturnToTheCityV2_l10n.pk4rift_l10n.pk4rightful_l10n.pk4samhain_l10n.pk4siegeshop_l10n.pk4somewhere1.1_l10n.pk4sons_of_baltona_1_l10n.pk4stalban_l10n.pk4storm_l10n.pk4swing_v1_2_l10n.pk4thecreeps_l10n.pk4thiefs_den_l10n.pk4training_mission_l10n.pk4transaction_l10n.pk4vfat1_l10n.pk4winterharvest_l10n.pk4 Wouldn't it be better to actually use these files, than to stuff them to some "backup" dir? It really pains me that after all these years the I18N effort is still going to waste Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) delivery_l10n.pk4 on swift-mazes.com is the same as the mission. I can delete the file, but it would be synced from taakies mirror. Biker, or taaki, can you please delete it there? Edited April 28, 2015 by Tels Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikerdude Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Biker, or taaki, can you please delete it there?Done. It really pains me that after all these years the I18N effort is still going to waste Just give it time, once Charisma finishes his/her rusian translation for the whole mode this should incourage more translations, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tels Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Done.Just give it time, once Charisma finishes his/her rusian translation for the whole mode this should incourage more translations, I'd like to play more missions in German, and also help translating more of them. But the I18N must exist first... Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnartsch Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Stashing the L10N files into some backup-'archive' isn't my primary intention either.But from what I know far more mission received a translation, than the number of mission got actually enabled for L10N.And it still seems like quite a few authors don't want their missions to be touched by anyone else.That's the issue here, I guess.So, moving the unused ones away is just a means to keep the primary directory clean. Edited April 28, 2015 by gnartsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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