To Maze Or Not

[NeonsStyle]

Hey All,

 

I've not seen this discussion in here, so I figured I'd ask.

 

One thing that erked me a great deal about T2, was the way it was predominantly (except for the town maps) running a maze. I don't know about you, but I hated that. In T1, we had alot of freedom. I want to be able to choose my own routes, and as such, learn smarter, better ways of doing things. Mappers job I know. The biggest advantage of it, is it will mean less maps need to be made, becuause the same campaign maps (the smaller ones), can be used for multiplayer as well (until the FM's start popping up).

 

Nothing gets me bored faster, than running a maze an entire game. Now I know, in a SP Campaign, there are triggers that need to be set in order to enable certain things to occur. But for a mapper, its not much more difficult to replicate those scripted events in different locations, depending on the route the player chooses.

 

I just hope you'll take this into consideration, when you come to design your layouts for the campaign, cause

I'm just about wetting myself waiting for this mod. lol

 

Venus

[Gildoran]

As far as I know, we aren't going to have any MP support, and we'll only start on the campaign after the first release of TDM. Anyway, most people working on TDM are big fans of providing multiple entrances to buildings, multiple ways to solve stuff, etc.

 

Personally, I'm not sure I understand why you think T2 was more maze-like than T1. Were "Shipping and Receiving", "First City Bank and Trust" or "Kidnap" like a maze?

[NeonsStyle]

No MP support??? Awwwww thats a bit of a disappointment. Wish it was the other way around. But hey, maybe it might get added later (hopes). lol

 

I take your point. I forgot those maps. However the subterranean worlds were pretty maze like. Still, good to know ppl are thinking free map styles.

 

Venus

[Dram]

Yeah, once we release TDM, anyone can add multiplayer support, it's just that it won't be supported out of the box

[OrbWeaver]

No MP support??? Awwwww thats a bit of a disappointment. Wish it was the other way around.

 

Are you serious? Thief is a single player game, with no multiplayer support, and TDM is intended to provide a similar experience to Thief. There is no clear concept of what a multiplayer Thief-like game would even involve.

 

If you're looking for a multiplayer game you've come to the wrong place.

[bob_arctor]

Be better off watching that Nightblade (that right?) for UT.

 

Oddity models for them as well.

[Springheel]

However the subterranean worlds were pretty maze like

 

One of the only subterranean T2 maps was a direct copy of a T1 map...

[Domarius]

Well a co-op game would be the same as a single player game but with more people playing. But it's not in the scope of our toolset, so we won't be doing it anyway.

[NeonsStyle]

Yeah, once we release TDM, anyone can add multiplayer support, it's just that it won't be supported out of the box

 

Ahh well thats cool... I prefer to map for SP, but can't beat MP for fun with others lol..

 

Yes thief is a SP game, of course... but I think theivery has shown it can work as a MP game too. Just its alot

harder, and differnt.

 

Yeh, nightblade looked cool, but I was on their site the other day, and looks dead. News hasn't been updated for ages.

 

Venus