Oh yeah, "reverse mantling" would be reverse mantling off of all drops, I wasn't thinking that far. It as just the closest description I thought of. Is that doable? Like if the water is close enough to the drop, like a body-length or somethin, you get a smaller splash and much quieter noise. A splish. A plop. The splash it makes now gives me a recurring mental image of my master thieves getting to the edge of the water, screwing their eyes shut, holding their noses, and jumping in. I don't want to ask for a forced action though.