Spiders are difficult to move

[Sotha]

Spiders are a strange lot in TDM. After you kill them, they stick to the floor. It is difficult to pick them up or even move them in the grapper. They aren't shoulderable, so -essentially- they cannot be moved at all once they are dead.

 

I played a mission, where a spider goes in front of a door the player needs to pass. I shot the big spider in front of the door and unfortunately, the spider blocked the door. Since it could not be easily moved, the door was blocked and I almost had to noclip. Luckily I got it loose after a long while of fiddling and dragging from various directions, and I got the door open just enough so I could slip by.

 

Should spiders be shoulderable? I know there is no gameplay purpose why someone would like to carry a spider around, but the ability to move the critters would eradicate this kind of situations where doors or other important things get blocked.

 

Should I scribble a bug report?

[skacky]

I think the best thing to do in that situation if you want to keep spiders non shoulderable would be to make the death model non solid to entities. I don't know if it's possible to do it though.

[grayman]

Should I scribble a bug report?

 

Please do. Thx.

[Sotha]

Done, here: http://bugs.thedarkmod.com/view.php?id=3574

 

Also I noticed there are no option to file bugs against TDM2.0, I filed this one against 1.08. Need the 2.0 option to the list.

[PranQster]

In the meantime, mappers could adjust the mass of the AI (with grabable & frobable set), right? Then the ragdoll should be more easily moved. Or could adjusting the mass of the AI mess up pathfinding in any way?

Edited October 13, 2013 by PranQster

[PranQster]

Should spiders be shoulderable? I know there is no gameplay purpose why someone would like to carry a spider around, but the ability to move the critters would eradicate this kind of situations where doors or other important things get blocked.

I'm thinking of a scenario where the player could pick up a dormant spider (make it ko'able or sleeping?), and place it in an area with enemy AI. Then, somehow, the player wakes the spider(s) up and kicks back and watches the melee which ensues.

Hmmm... special delivery. Spider-in-a-box. The player delivers a crate which, upon opening by AI, releases a live "pet" killer spider.

Edited October 13, 2013 by PranQster

[Springheel]

The spider ragdoll has always been weird. I've never been able to solve the issue of them floating either.

 

Also I noticed there are no option to file bugs against TDM2.0, I filed this one against 1.08. Need the 2.0 option to the list.

 

You should file it for 2.01.