AngelLoader TDM Support (now released!)

[FenPhoenix]

In-app downloading is turning out to be a lot more troublesome than I thought, and some of the auto-detection of stuff the game does is more troublesome than I thought too. So I'm thinking I could just make the first public release sans downloader and then take my time to develop something nice.

Anyway, new beta.

Beta 10

• Auto-update finished difficulty when an FM is finished in-game.
• If AngelLoader doesn't have a last-played date already, it will pull it from TDM's database. But if it has its own, it will use that, because it's more granular (TDM's only goes down to the day).
• Sorting for the Archive column for TDM FMs now works correctly.
• "Play Without FM" for TDM now deselects any selected FM before running it. Don't know, just seemed cleaner. Think of a like a roundabout "download missions" button where you can go in-game with no FM and download some, I dunno.
• Added support for detecting in-place updated FMs, but only scan on next startup due to race condition with the pk4
• Removed support for auto-refreshing on pk4 add, because the game adds pk4s individually to the fms dir before moving them to their own dirs, and we were trying to scan with each one (and failing due to locks and such)

Edited October 23, 2023 by FenPhoenix

[FenPhoenix]

Beta 11

• Fix finished-on state auto-update was unreliable
• Slighty improve scanner title/author detect

Tags are now named some whatever regular-version-looking thing to force GitHub to put the newest at the top

[snatcher]

AngelLoader works a treat. Thanks a lot for your work.

Shame we don't have a "Last Completed" date (not blaming you Fen!)

[FenPhoenix]

Yeah, a last completed date would be something the game would have to implement (and write it out to missions.tdminfo). Apart from that, there's no reliable way for AngelLoader to know it.

Beta 12

• Fixed: the first "refresh from disk" trigger from TDM would be ignored, due to spurious refreshes being queued on startup and then never run, thus not having the refresh level value reset.
• In the Settings window, if a setting was changed that required a view refresh (game paths etc.), the filters would lose their state after the refresh.
• Dark Mod FM scans now show a progress box with a cancel button, because it's theoretically possible for the server data download to take some unboundedly large amount of time (highly unlikely, but covering the edge cases).
• Title filter searches now also search TDM "archive" names, same as for the other games.
• The DarkLoader Import window will now disable the Import Saves checkbox if no backup path has been specified, and shows a link to go to the Settings window where you can specify a backup path.

[wesp5]

53 minutes ago, FenPhoenix said:

Yeah, a last completed date would be something the game would have to implement (and write it out to missions.tdminfo).

Shouldn't that not be the same as the last played date? For me it usually is unless I am in the middle of a mission ;).

Edited October 24, 2023 by wesp5

[FenPhoenix]

Yeah, there's the last played date, but there's no (reliable) way to know if you actually completed the game on that date. What I mean by "no reliable way" is that the following would have to occur for the last completed date to be accurate:

• AngelLoader is running.
• You're playing an FM (say, Iris) on a difficulty you have not completed yet (say, Expert).
• You complete the FM, the game marks it as "completed on Expert" and writes that out to missions.tdminfo.
• AngelLoader detects the change to missions.tdminfo, reads it, and compares to its internal list. It sees that Iris' finished states differ between the internal database and missions.tdminfo: the latter has Expert marked, whereas the internal database only has Normal marked (or nothing, or whatever). It adds the Expert finished state to the internal database for Iris, and updates the UI. Because it catches every modification of this file and updates its internal database every time, it knows the difference in finished states occured on the most recent write. Thus, it could timestamp this and there's your last completed date.

Unreliabilities:

• If AngelLoader were not running when the game writes the value out, then you have no guarantee of time anymore. Not only were you not there to catch the change event, but the file's last-write-time doesn't save you either: the file could have been modified any number of times (updating any number of FMs' entries) since the time of the updating of the actual FM you completed, and individual entries are not marked with the time of their finished state change. So if multiple FMs were finished between AngelLoader runs? Even if you went with the file timestamp, that's still only one. If you finished two FMs between AL runs, any information whatsoever about the time of completion of the first one is completely lost. Same if the game simply wrote over the file with unchanged data, that would lose your correct file timestamp too.
• If you finished an FM on a difficulty you have finished before, then the game will simply write out the same value resulting in no change to the FM entry in missions.tdminfo. AngelLoader will still detect the file modification and will still read and compare the file, but now no differences will be found, so it's impossible for it to know whether any FM's finished state has been changed, and thus it can't know whether you finished it that run or not, and can't datestamp it.
• The last finished dates of any FMs you completed before you set up AngelLoader are unknowable, period. It might be the last played date but it just as well might not be.

We'd end up with a mishmash of correct data and guesses that may just as well be wrong as right. If you can't trust the data then I'm not convinced it's that useful.

Edited October 28, 2023 by FenPhoenix
"played" -> "completed"

[FenPhoenix]

Beta 13

• More robust TDM file reading attempts: we now try until we can access them or until a 5 second timeout
• If a TDM file is not found at all, we now continue immediately and don't wait the 5 seconds
• Rework auto-refresh system to be simpler and more robust:
  • Refreshes run completely on the UI thread now
  • Refreshes happen immediately or not at all; no more deferred refreshes
  • Refreshes are not allowed when the main window is blocked or disabled (mostly if a progress box is up)
  • If a dialog window is open (Settings, About, etc.) then a "lightweight" refresh (UI update only) is allowed, but a "heavyweight" refresh (FM list reload, possible scan and/or readme cache update) is not.
• Remove installed status from unavailable TDM FMs (those not found on disk)
• Gracefully handle scenarios where some or all watched TDM files or directories may not exist (clean install, partially broken install etc.)
• Ignore empty or invalid FM dirs (dirs with no pk4 files in them; TDM clean installs may add an empty "saintlucia" folder for example)

[FenPhoenix]

Here's the latest beta. I feel like this is about ready for a public release at this point. If no one has any bug reports or anything, and if I don't find any issues in the next few days, I'll start preparing the first public release.

Beta 14

• Matching game behavior on a bunch of subtler points. None of the below scenarios are likely to occur, but it's best to be able to handle them.
  • TDM auto-converts FM file names to a valid form (lowercase, replacing disallowed chars with underscores, etc.). AngelLoader is now able to match non-converted FM names to their converted counterparts, so it knows for example "BaKerY;job.pk4" is the FM "bakery_job".
  • TDM doesn't care what the pk4 inside an fm's folder is called. So "C:\darkmod\fms\bakery_job\bakery_job.pk4" will load just as well as "C:\darkmod\fms\bakery_job\totally_different_name.pk4". AngelLoader is now aware of this during scans and will not require the in-fm-folder pk4's name to match the FM's.
  • TDM supports compressed FMs with the .zip extension as well as .pk4 when the FM is in the base FMs dir (hasn't been moved yet). AngelLoader is now aware of this, and of the priority order of the two extensions, and will choose the correct file when scanning/loading.
• In Settings -> Paths, the Backup Path area has been polished a bit.
• In Settings -> Appearance -> Show or hide interface elements, the checkboxes are now "Show" instead of "Hide", to be more straightforward.
• When scanning, the progress box will now show a message that it's getting TDM FM data from the server if it's doing so, rather than the more generic "preparing scan" message.

[snatcher]

I can't find beta 14, other than the source.

[FenPhoenix]

2 minutes ago, snatcher said:

I can't find beta 14, other than the source.

Oops! Uploaded.

[snatcher]

I launched two different instances of beta 14, one with and one without internet and both worked without issues, messages or complaints.

AngelLoader does what it is supposed to do very efficiently. It is lightning fast and it comes with the right set of settings to set it up as per my liking: dark theme, tabs instead of icons (two games only), and sorting (true alphabetical).

A welcome addition to the TDM world. Thank you very much.

[FenPhoenix]

Public release v1.7.6 (with Dark Mod support) is out.

Improvements since the final beta 14 are:

• Fixed a few remaining bugs with zip/pk4 support.
• Game Versions window now properly displays TDM version.
• Import window no longer has a vestigial off-screen TDM field (because TDM doesn't need or support importing).
• Web search option is now disabled if an unknown/unsupported FM is selected.
• If an FM with an unknown or unsupported game type is selected, the messages in the tab area now no longer refer to Thief 3 ("Mod management is not supported for Thief: Deadly Shadows").

The full changelog can be viewed at the release link.

The de facto official AngelLoader thread is here: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149706

Bug reports, feature requests etc. are usually posted there. I'll continue following this thread though.

Thanks everyone and enjoy!

Edited October 31, 2023 by FenPhoenix
wrong link

[nbohr1more]

Woo!!

[TheUnbeholden]

Nice work. 

[snatcher]

Can I nitpick? I would like to have cross icons right there to remove filters with one click

AngelLoader is awesome.

[FenPhoenix]

I've opened a github issue https://github.com/FenPhoenix/AngelLoader/issues/117

[I.C.H.I.]

When this thing receives FM downloader I will stop using the native FM selector forever.

[CountMorillonite]

Screenshots Tab Shaded Out

I noticed this morning that I no longer have access to the Screenshot Tab, located in the bottom right of the AngelLoader Faceplate.

The other Tabs (Edit FM , Comment , etc) are working fine. I use the Screenshot Tab to take me directly to the Folder containing my screenshots. I noticed that there was a Gamma Control located in this Tab as well, and coincidentally or not, I was adjusting my Video Settings yesterday, tweaking Gamma , Brightness , and other values. 

I did not change the location of the Screenshots, and they DO exist. But the Button (as well as everything else) is shaded out and I no longer have access to that Tab.

I haven't updated to the most recent version of AngelLoader yet (current version = 1.10.1 64bit), but I doubt that's the issue as everything was fine until this morning.

I restarted AngelLoader a few times, but the problem persists. 

The game I was playing was Darkmod (ver 2.13) and I switched to a different mission with the same results.

Is there any history of this happening ? 

I fixed my problem. Looking through the recent updates, I realized there was an issue concerning Screenshots. I took that information, created a new screenshot for the mission I was playing, and now the Screenshot Tab is available. 

So obviously I need to update AngelLoader.

Sorry for wasting your time reading this.

 

Edited July 24, 2025 by CountMorillonite
Fixed

[Mat99]

On 7/24/2025 at 3:50 PM, CountMorillonite said:

I no longer have access to the Screenshot Tab, located in the bottom right of the AngelLoader Faceplate.

R-click or menu:

[CountMorillonite]

It looks like you went through a bit of a process to illustrate how to fix my problem. It IS fixed now by simply creating a new screenshot. The Screenshot Tab is now no longer shaded out and I can easily go to the folder by clicking the button at the bottom left of the Tab, below the Gamma Slider.

I think thats what you're trying to illustrate. Thanks for your efforts.