New Mansion Pack Requests

[SneaksieDave]

Sneaksie did some test on that and whe seemed overwhelmed. Depends on your machine though.

To warn, I think we should remain very cautious. Yes, the city test is showing over 300k tris at once, and rendering it with dynamic lights (not tons of them, but quite a few), and somehow maintaining a framerate near 30 even on a P4 1.4... but there has to be SOME reason why in D3 even *single rooms* (portalized, even!) run slower. My initial guess that it's the huge use of complex materials (numerous texture passes for every surface), tons of lights everywhere, and *gulp*, AI/scripts...... once those are in, we might be in for a bit of a rude awakening.

 

[_Atti_]

Atti, 3ds Max 7 now has its own normal map plugin as standard...so

yay...didnt know that..but thats good news..now i just have to find that function in it:)

[oDDity]

Clicky - video tut on the whole process here. It's 50 megs and you'll have to sign up for a free username at fileplanet if you haven't got one, but this vid by Brian Trepaning shows you the whole damn Max 7 normal mapping thang.

[_Atti_]

thanks...

its amazing how slow can freefileplanetservers be...

[_Atti_]

OMG..)

 

that movie shoul be named as 'How to setup the most uneffiecient windowlayouts in 3dsmax7- dont try it at home'

[_Atti_]

anyone has chilliskinner saved on his computer? i cant find a working link to it..

any other good mapping tool for max would be appreciated too if noone has chili...

[_Atti_]

Fireplace..

that half transparent thing on the bottom is representing little pillars..do you think an alpha is good enough for such or shall i put them as models?

but it can be glass as well..some fancy glass like the one on that pic of the gaslight..

Edited January 6, 2005 by _Atti_

[_Atti_]

chandalier...however thats more gothic style..dunno if it would fit with the victorian mansion setting..

[_Atti_]

i stretched it out just for fun..but i think it looks better than the original one and would fit with some great halls:)

[Fingernail]

the second one looks....how can I put this? Stretched.

 

The first is better.

[_Atti_]

btw if anyone has some nice,unique concept pics of chandalier that would fit with the mansion setting than plz post a link....or shall i simply go and make a t2 style one?

[_Atti_]

the second one looks....how can I put this? Stretched.

 

The first is better.

yea i stretched that just for fun..but look at it as a concept art:) i mean..some real high/long chandaliers would be spectacular..

[BlackThief]

hm IMHO the streched one looks more elegant

[Springheel]

Nothing wrong with gothic...we should have just as much gothic influence as we do victorian.

 

Here's a few ref pics:

 

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogci...cts/8103750.jpg

 

http://www.victorianreproductionlighting.c...nd

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elier-322.jpg

 

http://www.antique-lighting.net/graphics/chandelier.jpg

[oDDity]

THat first chandelier is fine Atti, I love it.

[_Atti_]

thanks

 

i am glad you like my design..howver i will add some candlehlders cuase its not too useful this way:) the circles are too thin..

[oDDity]

Here's another manson pack job done. THe sword and shield wall hanging.

I was thinking we could use the shield in the middle for a coat of arms or family crest, and change the skin as needed.

Edited January 12, 2005 by oDDity

[BlackThief]

rofl - this is damn impressive again ! love it

[Springheel]

Yep, looks great, oDDity. Love the wood grain.

[New Horizon]

Great work. Excellent idea on changing the coat of arms too. Maximize usage.

[Darkness_Falls]

Yep! Awesome work again.

[sparhawk]

Here's another manson pack job done. THe sword and shield wall hanging.

I was thinking we could use the shield in the middle for a coat of arms or family crest, and change the skin as needed.

I love it. Looks really good.

 

One thing that I'm still not sure about is that changin textures, though. I was under the impression that it should be easy to create asingle model and exchange textures. Of course we can do this and create all kind of variations, but this would still mean that we deliver the same model multiple times with different textures, which kind of begs the question. From what I read it should be possible to do this with D3 support, so that you don't have to deliver the model multiple times. Or does this just mean we create different materials for the same model, with different textures.

 

Now that I think of this, I think this is the way to go. So we use diskspace for the model only once. Good that we talked about it.

[oDDity]

You use .skin files to have different textures on the same model. If you just gave it different textures and shader you'd need a separate model, so there would be no point.

[sparhawk]

You use .skin files to have different textures on the same model. If you just gave it different textures and shader you'd need a separate model, so there would be no point.

I see. I didn't know exactly how this works. If this can be done via .skin files than that's fine for me. And how dou specify which skin to use in each instance? Because the material reference in the model will always point to the same material. So there would have to be a mechanism how to specify whch skin should be used for a particular instance.

[oDDity]

Maybe this can't be used for static obects thoiugh. It works for charcaters and weapons/ammo becasue you can point to the skin in the definition file.

It doesn't matter that much, a shield like this probably wouldn't appear very often on a map anyway. Even if we do have to call the second instance 'shielmodel1' and give it a different shader. Changing the texture will be simple for any FM author if they want to design their own family crest.