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I searched the forum on loot values but didn't really come up with much. Probably not a huge deal at this point but probably needs looked into by the team before release. I'm adding loot defs so I thought I'd post my thoughts. Obviously the main thing we are aiming for in loot is the ability to easily recognize it. Values : seems to be the one factor that is most important. I've added alot of skins to the loot.def file. I did this so we get consistant loot values. Other wise the author would create a gold ring and have to choose a skin and change the value for a silver ring. Of course we can't stop an author from choosing any value they want, but most likely will stick to convention if it's easy. Probably the most important reason to have standard loot values is for the players. Often times at TTLG someone would be looking for that last 75 gold. It was easy for someone to say: gold goblets are 75, look here and there, a coin stack and a plate would be 75, ect... Anyone can double check my values and give input. Basically on things like rings and coins silver = 1/2 gold. Also I tried to make diamonds the most expensive with emeralds second, opals, down to less precious gems like amethyst. I didn't change any existing values, just tried to base ne values off of the existing items. Moveable/Static Loot : In my forums search I came across a thread or two talking about this. I think this is old news but would like to hear what you all currently think about it. I think at one point the team wasn't sure if it should move or not, due to explosions blowing it out of reach, whether or not the mover would work with loot, ect... All these issues seem to have passed so I suggest we get rid of static loot, is there a reason to still have these entities? (other than it already being used in maps?) With the exception of the scepter, statue loot, religious symbol and the diamond all of the loot models have collision models. I can add collision for the scepter and the statue as they are ase. The diamond needs retex so I can do that and add collision, although it will then be an ase. Someone else will need to add collision to the religious obj. I think bonehoard has some static loot which would be better as moveable anyway. I couldn't reach so I shot 10 arrows and it never budged. It was a gold vase which doesn't appear in the loot list but should. I suppose angua just added loot props for that map. Also, I'd like to get more opinions on the gem textures. I want to replace the diamond and ruby textures of old with these. I've got one thumbs up so far (from PinkDot?) the big blue thing is my diamond, the little white thing is the old one. of course there are several sizes... The tex on far right is meant to replace the ruby (small red next to large red) The red on left turns out to be a bonehoard specific shader. --EDIT--forgot to mention, the small red gem with my tex needs remapped, it would look more like the large one.

I'm fairly certain I remember a mission (Heart, possibly?) where there were lit candles on top of loot candlesticks. When you frobbed the candlesticks, the candles themselves remained and fell down. I'm trying to achieve the same effect but without any luck. When I frob the candlestick, the lit candle just stays floating in the air. Is there some trick to making this work?

For the last 1-2 weeks the forums have been really slow and unresponsive for me, when I type a post half the time it just sits there etc.. is anyone else having the same issues..?

Does anybody else have this problem? In the (European) evenings the forum is unbearable slow. The server is delivering about 8Kbyte/s, sometimes less and usually stops midwhere during loading the page. Sometimes you can't even get the index page, sometimes you can log in, but then only get half of the overview etc. In the mornings everything is snappy.

I've upgraded IPB to the latest stable version, and since this was a major upgrade (from 2.3.6) I also had to re-do the forum style. Most of the new stuff is in place, but I bet that the logo will be changed. One of the many new features in version 3 is rating of posts and also a "report spammer" ability which will make it easier to single out spam bots and ban then at sight. Hopefully this will stop some of the spam threads we've seen recently. Make sure to empty your browser cache if you're experiencing any problems. And please report any errors etc in this thread. Cheers, ~m2

It looks like loot reported on the statistics screen doesn't care about Easy/Medium/Hard. I have a piece of loot that doesn't show up on Easy (on purpose), but it appears in the loot total. This will make a player think that he missed something, when it was never in the game. Bug?

What method do mappers use to figure out how much loot is in their map?

Hey Fellas. In another thread the old discussion about distinguishing loot from junk was briefly mentioned and I would like to discuss it a little further without derailing the thread. So here we go! In conclusion, It's been said, there is a general agreement that we are not going to see any silver loot because of this problem, which is a shame, because everyone loves variety. I then thought of an easy way of how to communicate the value of an object to the player: Another solution would be to fade a very faint loot-glint in, when the object is highlighted and fade out, when it's not. This would be a compromise between TDS-glint and colored-loot-highlight, but I'd vastly prefer the other method, because this one would make small things like rings easier to find. At least if the fade- (and activate-)timespan is not set to a high value. Anyway, I don't want to force a new feature into TDM here, I'd just like to discuss it.

So... What was up with the forums all day yesterday..?