MSI HDMI Monitor

[MPMcguire]

I recently got a new HDMI Monitor. When I go to load the Mission "Iris" it starts to load then exits.

Have you come across this before ?

When I unplug the HDMI graphics adapter (SZMZ GT610 2G) and connect my old monitor to the VGA onboard port the game will load no problem.

Thanks in advance.

 

[chakkman]

Do other games work with the new monitor?

Also, please name the monitor, so we can check if it has some additional hardware feature (audio, USB etc.), which could mess up or something.

Edited December 19, 2023 by chakkman

[MPMcguire]

its an MSI Monitor. Yes other games work. I have an Nivdia GEforce GT610 graphics card via HDMI to the monitor.

[nbohr1more]

What OS version and driver version?

[chakkman]

18 hours ago, MPMcguire said:

its an MSI Monitor. 

Which one?  MSI has dozens of different models.

Edited December 20, 2023 by chakkman

[MPMcguire]

Oh sorry its the MSI G27C6 running on Nvidia G Force GT610

[chakkman]

Is Iris the only mission which doesn't work with that monitor?

[STiFU]

You are effectively using a different GPU when using the onboard VGA port, which raises the question, what CPU / onboard GPU are you running?

My bet is that your 2 Gigs of VRAM are simply insufficient for running Iris at Full HD. Could you try a small FM like "The Parcel" with the new monitor and GPU?

[nbohr1more]

Geforce GT 610 has "Turbocache" so it can use system memory to expand it's VRAM.

If you have old \ buggy Graphics drivers ( or no graphics drivers), that may not work too well.

Still, the mission will challenge a lowend GPU like this. Setting image_downsize settings should help it run:

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Performance_Tweaks#Image_downsizing

[MPMcguire]

Thanks guys I tried changing everything in Darkmod.cfg but still won't run "Iris". However it still runs other player maps.

When I ran the game on my system using the old built in graphics card all the games ran fine.

 

[MPMcguire]

Device name    DESKTOP-JJQP8RQ
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz   3.19 GHz
Installed RAM    8.00 GB (7.90 GB usable)
Device ID    AD437894-5D3C-4DCB-9AD1-8E95732FDBCC
Product ID    00330-50362-88188-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    No pen or touch input is available for this display
 

[MPMcguire]

Is there anyone that possibly would have a darkmod.cfg file that I could use ? With all the relevant tweaks added???

 

Thanks Michael. 

[nbohr1more]

According to UserBenchmark, the "Intel® HD Graphics 530" that comes with your i5-6500 is more powerful than the Geforce GT610. Most motherboards that support this CPU have both HDMI and Display Port. Yours only has VGA? Can you post a picture of the rear I\O ?

[MPMcguire]

yes it only has VGA and another port but not HDMI as the HDMI cable wont fit. 

The picture is too large to send I'm afraid. 

[MPMcguire]

It is a very old computer and didn't come with HDMI even though the port is similar at the back.

 

[MPMcguire]

Got it , this is the other port

[nbohr1more]

That looks like a "displayport" port. Your monitor has a displayport input, you just need the cable ( if it didn't come with the monitor ).

[chakkman]

Or buy a used Geforce GTX 1060 for about 100 €, and you won't have any issues with The Dark Mod anymore.

[STiFU]

You can buy a displayport to hdmi adapter very cheap.

[MPMcguire]

None of the above worked. 

I can play on my old monitor no problem.

[nbohr1more]

Weird, what Intel driver do you have installed? What Nvidia driver? Since the Nvidia card is the weakest, can you remove it so it doesn't act as the primary?

[datiswous]

On 1/3/2024 at 10:52 PM, MPMcguire said:

When I ran the game on my system using the old built in graphics card all the games ran fine.

So if you use this with the MSI monitor (displayport cable) it doesn't work?

[freyk]

The output of condump log would be nice.

Please hook up a monitor the troubled displayport and load the mission using some start-parameters. After And post the output of the condump in this topic.

Maybe we can answer it by giving some driver setting changes.

More info:

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Debugging_TDM_systemerrors

Edited January 17, 2024 by freyk

[stgatilov]

Can't understand why GPU behavior depends on monitor.

Maybe test all the configurations in Windowed mode with exactly the same resolution?
Perhaps with Borderless/Fullscreen you get different resolution and it affects how much VRAM you have.

In fact, WDDM also reserves some VRAM for itself in order to render Windows desktop. It means that there is different amount of VRAM left for TDM (which usually does not matter unless you are very low).
Maybe try to set Windows display resolution the same and check if two monitors behave the same?

Also I agree that image_downsize is worth a try: it should reduce VRAM demands of TDM. Same for lowering "Render Scale" in the graphics menu and disabling antialiasing.
You can also try some software which tracks amount of VRAM used, maybe you get some insights from it.

[MPMcguire]

guys thanks for all your help.

I bought a NIPOGI mini pc and everything runs fine on the intel UHD graphics card.

Thanks again