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I love how writing sound propagation code leads me to post uninformed questions in so many other development forums... Anyway, I have to load a collision model for doors early on in my code, and I have a choice about whether to let it go ahead and use the rendermodel as the collision model if no .cm file exists for the model, or give an error at this point about the door not having a .cm file. I don't know how you guys make collision model .cm files, maybe they're automatically generated from SURF_COLLISION surface when importing the model? I dunno. I'm inclined to just do what D3 does when it loads collision models, which is try to find the .cm model, and if not, use the rendermodel. Because maybe you guys like to use SURF_COLLISION in your models themselves rather than generating a separate .cm file? I just wanted to check what you modelers' preferences are. As a side note, if I'm reading the code right, for a collision model to be precached on map load, the model files MUST include a .cm file, otherwise it's dynamically loaded from the rendermodel every time an entity using that rendermodel needs a clipModel (which I would think would be bad). So that may be one argument for making .cm files.

Anything you guys would like to see from us on the PR side of things (this isn't a mod feature discussion, mmk?), or to make these public forums better, more exciting, a public IRC channel, anything? We're a touchy-feely mod team, we want our fans and critics to be treated well. :lol: Seriously though, don't suffer in silence!!!!

Not many forums can have the luxury of allowing guest posting, and it's no wonder really. http://penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-03-19

My opinion (though I'm sure it counts for little like most opinions) is that the release of the Deadly Shadows editor actually helps TDM. Why? well... Here's a quote from Krypt at the TTLG forums: I think it's apparent that no matter how great the future TDS FM's will be (and based on community precident, they will be great), the gameplay elements that were removed from TDS will be impossible to implement even WITH the SDK. Alot of people held high hopes for the TDS SDK not only for the ability to make brand new missions with the brand new engine, but primarily to re-implement gameplay dynamics (and some would call staples) of the Thief seiries that most believed the programmers were unable to fully realize due to time constraints, but that the elements themselves were still in fact latent in the editor itself. I think, even now with this new information, there are pioneering modders who are trying deperately to make a rope arrow or swim around. Unfortunately, water and rope arrows simply weren't programmed in at all. My point is that even if TDM is half as good as it appears it will be, it will feel more like Thief than it's Official sequel (TDS). People didn't moan and groan about no water and no rope arrows just because they wanted options, but because they wanted more of what they had come to expect...look how aggrevated fans of the Fallout series became when thier beloved RPG became a RTS sim. No matter how large the levels become, or how high-res you make the texures, it'll still be TDS. Once people start realising that they'll never have rope arrows and water and leaning forward etc, I think the community will be ready to try anything resembling a true Thief experience. Right now, TDM is our best bet. I think some of the TTLG crew bite at TDM because they care so much for the original programmers and creators of the "Official" thief sequel. Seems to me there'd be alittle trepidation at the thought a mod made by a bunch of guys on a game forum with no monetary incentive could make a better all around experience for free than a huge group of paid, established developers, many of which worked on previous iterations of the game, and force us to shell out $50 to play it. Just a thought. Or two. Hylix.

There are tutorials on doom3world.org on how to get your own weapons into Doom3. http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showt...indpost&p=14120 That is in the resource thread. If you don't have access there, Ive pasted my post here; http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic...3017&highlight= Just scroll down (past the useless Video tutorials section) down to the TXT/HTML tutorials section. There, they are all categorised, into Scripting, Mapping, Lighting, In-game models, etc.

:lol: Just a few seconds ago I posted a similar thread in the models section. We should discuss this together, so we don't need to reorg every few months. http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showtopic=1335

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How would you "see" me around EvilAvatar unless I registered? I don't think I need to post in the forums to be able to form a conscious opinion of the site.

Hmm.. where could this have come from??? Nah, similar to BT. I jumped into the forums around when DromEd was to be released, and had no nick. Assuming that it would just be a matter of "grab the editor and disappear" I had no idea this awful choice of a name would be around for years. Since then, I've had a few ideas for good ones, but how does one change? Bah.

Direct link: http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/archive/i....php/t-268.html

welcome to the tdm forums uglyed nice to have you here (@ others he's a pretty nice guy from the german ttlg. made some awesome custom objects for T2 )

I have searched now high and low for Doom3 tutorials, but haven't found anything beyond the most basic stuff. Do you know of any thing I should bookmark and read? Here are a couple I found: http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/article.php?150.200 (only the most basic stuff - I already read it) http://forums.glenmurphy.com/4/ (Not much there) http://www.planetdoom.com/leveled/tutorials/ (Simple, basic, not good...) There are a few that I think might be interesting (e.g. more than just "create your second room, create a ladder): http://www.planetdoom.com/leveled/videotuts/ (Edit: Ah, crap, planetdoom is part of fileplanet, which wants you to register with the evil[tm] gamespy before you download. Screw that Unfortunately, most of the "custom" objects (e.g. animated objects, textures) stuff deals with 3DS Max, which I do not have access to. So, there goes this idea. Is there are a comprehensive guide to doom3 mapping/scripting? If not, would it make sense to start one? I wouldn't have a problem in hosting a wiki letting us pool our wisdoms together. Best wishes, Tels

There is one area in which T3Ed could be far, far superior to TDM - The City. The City could be expanded upon (see the Map Project over at TTLG Thief Gen forums) and new missions could be plugged into it. I've talked all about this over at thiefpetition.com. And I think it is early to knock T3Ed - you have no idea what it will be like. I know the D3 engine is next-gen in comparison but still, you don't know.

now is that guy naturist or just plain perverse ? sometimes i feel things are a bit ill around these forums:)

Hi, I am registed, was logged in (it said I was) and tried to post a message, but got this message. "Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information. The error returned was: "Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information. The error returned was: Sorry, you do not have permission to start a topic in this forum Useful Links · Forgotten Password Recovery · Register a new account · Our help documentation · Contact the forums administrator" I have never been able to post when logged in, I have to logout to guest post. Could someone fix this please? I have registered, and was logged in. Doesn't make sense, if as a guest I can start a topic, but not as a logged in user. Fix this please...

You should try to make them match up as much as possible for obvious repeated actions like walks, runs, attacks etc One thing about doom animations is that they aren't basic 'run on the spot' cycle loops like most games. A walk cycle can be several strides and actually moves forward along the ground. YOu can get a plugin from the doomworld forums to import the original doom charcater animations into max to study them.

Hey guys- Here's something that we all wish we would have seen over at the Ion Storm Forums..... First of all, a semi-tribute....

Hey guys, sorry I've been so latent on the forums lately, but I'm having trouble finding time to work on the mod since cross-country has started up. I don't get home until 6 pm, and after a shower, dinner, and a few hours of homework, I can't find time to work on concepts. I will try to do as much work as possible on the weekends (and during school lectures), but I just wanted to inform the team of my situation and explain my absence. I'm sorry about this inconvenience. Regards, Kevin M.

New Horizon said this on one of the Dev forums: This therefore means that Ion Storm IS closing down. It all so means 2 other things (possibly): 1: No Thief 3 Editor 2: and now it's up to us to keep the spirit of Thief going. I personally would've liked to see a Thief3 Editor too, but it looks like that's impossible now. --Dram

I'm not sure. You could ask him in the concerned thread on our forums. This is just a starting point, since our music guys are nuts and crank out entire tunes just to test things out. I doubt this will be the final version that makes it into the game -- or even if it makes it into the game at all. And no offense taken -- thanks for your candour! You hit the nail on the head -- this low-key tune (or something similar) will probably end up in the main menu or credits. We're going to keep the in-game music closer to our chests, since we don't want recognition of a song to ruin game immersion. I'm afraid I can't take credit for that tune -- it's the product of Tawan. Given that our game will follow a story arc in a loose, open-ended fashion, we're going to have a broad variety of musical styles. We'll probably end up slotting a musician for each chapter, to keep musical/audio consistency within each chapter. Thanks for all the comments everyone! -Glee ------------------------ PS. Check out "Tawan - Loner" at http://www.ctgmusic.com/charts.php =)

that's the problem: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?showtopic=653&st=125 http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=8731 here's everything important - the commode as obj and as lwo + diffusemap: http://www.thedarkmod.de/darkmod_files/commode.rar

Coolness. I like. Would it be hard for you to do a quick mock-up of the hammers having the handle switched around so that the current bottom side of the handle becomes the top? Keep the head in the same place, just rotate the handle around I guess that would be 180-degrees. I'm curious to see how that would change the look. In my mind it seems like would look even sweeter, but want to see it. I'd like to see him holding them in a view similar to your first view (http://forums.thedarkmod.com/uploads/post-5-1107635579.jpg) for comparison. As for the upside down hammer necklace, I like that. The weight of the necklace is at the bottom, somewhat symbolic of (and visually complimentary to) the weight of the hammers. The other way looks too much like a cross, which gets overdone. But I don't know the backstory of this guy to know if he's supposed to be "pro-builder"? If he's pro-builder, than an upside down hammer wouldn't be advisable; we'd want to come up with a different design if that's the case.

D3W was hacked only once - this is far from 'so often'. The thing is, it stayed hacked for, I don't know, almost two weeks, because BNA was away on a business trip. At first they added some reloading script to the site and changed the header, but it was kinda possible to get around that, then they changed something more and redirected the site altogether in a way you couldn't bypass. When that happened, one of the admins locked down the site to prevent further damage, and when BNA got back, he fixed things, upgraded php/phpbb, and reopened the forums. Like I said, although this lasted for quite a while because BNA was away, this was only one hack.. and in a period that several phpbb sites were hacked with mass-exploiting scripts. This was no board/engine war of any kind, and while it made people sad because they couldn't access the board (me included), we knew it was only temporary.