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On wiki page: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=GUI_Scripting:_Commands#Examples_2 I see: I don't see this defined in tdm_gui01.pk4\guis\readables\readable.guicode

Public release v1.7.6 (with Dark Mod support) is out. Improvements since the final beta 14 are: Fixed a few remaining bugs with zip/pk4 support. Game Versions window now properly displays TDM version. Import window no longer has a vestigial off-screen TDM field (because TDM doesn't need or support importing). Web search option is now disabled if an unknown/unsupported FM is selected. If an FM with an unknown or unsupported game type is selected, the messages in the tab area now no longer refer to Thief 3 ("Mod management is not supported for Thief: Deadly Shadows"). The full changelog can be viewed at the release link. The de facto official AngelLoader thread is here: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149706 Bug reports, feature requests etc. are usually posted there. I'll continue following this thread though. Thanks everyone and enjoy!

Here's the latest beta. I feel like this is about ready for a public release at this point. If no one has any bug reports or anything, and if I don't find any issues in the next few days, I'll start preparing the first public release. Beta 14 Matching game behavior on a bunch of subtler points. None of the below scenarios are likely to occur, but it's best to be able to handle them. TDM auto-converts FM file names to a valid form (lowercase, replacing disallowed chars with underscores, etc.). AngelLoader is now able to match non-converted FM names to their converted counterparts, so it knows for example "BaKerY;job.pk4" is the FM "bakery_job". TDM doesn't care what the pk4 inside an fm's folder is called. So "C:\darkmod\fms\bakery_job\bakery_job.pk4" will load just as well as "C:\darkmod\fms\bakery_job\totally_different_name.pk4". AngelLoader is now aware of this during scans and will not require the in-fm-folder pk4's name to match the FM's. TDM supports compressed FMs with the .zip extension as well as .pk4 when the FM is in the base FMs dir (hasn't been moved yet). AngelLoader is now aware of this, and of the priority order of the two extensions, and will choose the correct file when scanning/loading. In Settings -> Paths, the Backup Path area has been polished a bit. In Settings -> Appearance -> Show or hide interface elements, the checkboxes are now "Show" instead of "Hide", to be more straightforward. When scanning, the progress box will now show a message that it's getting TDM FM data from the server if it's doing so, rather than the more generic "preparing scan" message.

Beta 13 More robust TDM file reading attempts: we now try until we can access them or until a 5 second timeout If a TDM file is not found at all, we now continue immediately and don't wait the 5 seconds Rework auto-refresh system to be simpler and more robust: Refreshes run completely on the UI thread now Refreshes happen immediately or not at all; no more deferred refreshes Refreshes are not allowed when the main window is blocked or disabled (mostly if a progress box is up) If a dialog window is open (Settings, About, etc.) then a "lightweight" refresh (UI update only) is allowed, but a "heavyweight" refresh (FM list reload, possible scan and/or readme cache update) is not. Remove installed status from unavailable TDM FMs (those not found on disk) Gracefully handle scenarios where some or all watched TDM files or directories may not exist (clean install, partially broken install etc.) Ignore empty or invalid FM dirs (dirs with no pk4 files in them; TDM clean installs may add an empty "saintlucia" folder for example)

Good work! I enjoy short missions because things are nice and focused - you get in, you get out. Also I tend to do better with the loot amounts and I was able to get all the loot without too much trouble, which is rare for me. If I were to make a suggestion though - I found the intro briefing sequence a bit distracting because it was so obvious the narration was pitch-shifted to make a deeper voice. If you felt the original voice wasn't deep enough for your needs, I would either get someone on the forums to record it for you or just leave as is. That's my only real complaint and it's not even about the mission itself, so pretty good first start!

Beta 11 Fix finished-on state auto-update was unreliable Slighty improve scanner title/author detect Tags are now named some whatever regular-version-looking thing to force GitHub to put the newest at the top

Feedback needed. I plan to do all the "verbosity speech" subtitles for 2.12 (assuming Feb 2023 as target date), while leaving any "verbosity effects" for later. So I need a consensus on what we would like to see covered, or not, by "verbosity speech". Importantly, when you turn on "speech" subtitles in TDM, what would you expect to see or not see? Easier cases: manbeast (hear at tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts02.pk4\sound\voices\monster\manbeast) I would call as "speech", because it's still spoken and in English. steambots and automaton (tdm_ai_steambots01.pk4\sound\sfx\ai\) I would call as "effects", because of the non-language sounds & no vocal cords. Animals and Monsters [no human language spoken; so probably "effects"?]: raven (tdm_sound_vocals04.pk4\sound\voices\animal\) elemental (tdm_sound_vocals04.pk4\sound\voices\monster\elemental) spider (tdm_sound_vocals04.pk4\sound\voices\monster\spider) horse (tdm_sound_vocals05.pk4\sound\voices\animal\horse) zombie (tdm_sound_vocals05.pk4\sound\voices\undead\zombie) werebeast (tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts01.pk4\sound\voices\monster\werebeast) Edge cases: player (tdm_sound_vocals01.pk4\sound\voices\player) [mostly grunts, groans, some hmmms] revenant (tdm_sound_vocals05.pk4\sound\voices\undead\revenant)[a little english, a little latin, and much unintelligible/multiple-voices/sounds/reverb]

In-app downloading is turning out to be a lot more troublesome than I thought, and some of the auto-detection of stuff the game does is more troublesome than I thought too. So I'm thinking I could just make the first public release sans downloader and then take my time to develop something nice. Anyway, new beta. Beta 10 Auto-update finished difficulty when an FM is finished in-game. If AngelLoader doesn't have a last-played date already, it will pull it from TDM's database. But if it has its own, it will use that, because it's more granular (TDM's only goes down to the day). Sorting for the Archive column for TDM FMs now works correctly. "Play Without FM" for TDM now deselects any selected FM before running it. Don't know, just seemed cleaner. Think of a like a roundabout "download missions" button where you can go in-game with no FM and download some, I dunno. Added support for detecting in-place updated FMs, but only scan on next startup due to race condition with the pk4 Removed support for auto-refreshing on pk4 add, because the game adds pk4s individually to the fms dir before moving them to their own dirs, and we were trying to scan with each one (and failing due to locks and such)

The subtitles of The Simpleton vocal set is now available for eventual incorporation into TDM: testSubtitlesSimpleton.pk4 "Vocal Script: Simpleton" says that he is "an uneducated, simple character, who speaks in a slow, measured voice. He goes about his life dealing with the here and now, and doesn’t think much about anything beyond what he’s doing. He could be a simple servant or labourer. For inspiration, think of the pirate with the wooden eye from 'Pirates of the Carribean', or Hank Hill from 'King of the Hill'. This is the default voice for common townsfolk, so don’t give him too much personality, or over-exaggerate it for laughs (even though some of the lines are played for comedic value)." Statistics In file fm_root.subs there are 496 inlines, including: 52 with an explicit linebreak, intending 2 lines 444 without Of these, 59 with explicit duration extensions, as follows: 37 from 0.25 to 0.49, for 17 cps 22 capped at 0.50 seconds, for 17-20 cps There are 3 SRTs, all representing vocalized tunes. Each has 2 messages, with a 2-second start message and later 2-second end message. None required an explicit linebreak. In all, there are 499 voice clips with subtitles, showing 502 messages. Corresponding Excel File SubtitlesSimpleton.xlsx As usual, this is based on Version 5 of the Excel Template for TDM bark subtitles.

I'd like to better understand what you want. The design of dragging bodies is to hold frob (key down) to drag and release frob (key up) to let go. That way it's impossible to walk away while unintentionally dragging a body. Plus, it's quick to grab and move several body limbs in rapid succession. This is thought to provide a better experience, especially for new players. Towards the beginning of this thread, I created a "tdm_frobhold_drag_body_behavior" cvar. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22198-feature-proposal-frob-to-use-world-item/&do=findComment&comment=487580 "tdm_frobhold_drag_body_behavior", default:"1" Which drag body behavior? 1 --- on frob key up, drop body (limb). 0 --- on second frob, drop body (limb), TDM v2.11 (and prior) behavior. That cvar was removed shortly afterwards, because it was said that it wasn't needed. With that cvar set to 0, a second frob would be required to let go of the body. Is that the behavior that you want? If so, I can add that cvar back. Also, I saw elsewhere that you want the ability to revert back to the old way. If you mean that all of the controls match TDM 2.11, that can be done with "tdm_frobhold_delay 0" and there will be a menu setting to disable it as well.

Yes: It could then be distributed as a mod that works universally. I may propose it for the modpack! I already did a brief test and it worked: I managed to give the player a guard head while the guard helmet was being worn! But soon after TDM would crash to the main menu, and after a few tweaks to the script even that stopped working and there's only the crash now. Likely some obscure internal issue that can be hopefully tackled in the engine. Thank you, that I shall! And the biggest issue with getting mods to work is the need for a tdm_custom_scripts.script which has been the biggest thorn in the backs of modders: I'd say either execute all scripts automatically the way all files are loaded, or if that's unsafe just allow a script carrying the name of the pk4 to be auto-executed.

When I was a teen I used to play a game called Hitman: It was also a 3rd person stealth game focused on assassinations and disguises. Its main gimmick was the player stealing an enemy's clothing and dressing up as them to infiltrate, while disguised you avoid acting suspicious or your enemies would realize you're not one of them and your cover is blown. I've thought about attempting something similar in TDM in the past. Since it's impossible to customize the player model 1st person hands, I realized custom outfits are out of the question. Then it dawned on me that I could go for a simplified version, by implying the player only wears a helmet or large hat to disguise theirself, enough so it makes sense and throws the AI off. So I got to work and after 3 days of tweaking I'm ready to share my latest mod: Working disguises How it works: The player can pick up headwear and equip by using the item, making you a member of the target team when active. While worn a bar appears at the top of the screen indicating the status of your disguise: This bar slowly fills up over time... it will drain when a member or ally of the team you're disguised as sees you the closer you get, further draining if the AI is alert. When the strength reaches 0 the disguise deactivates, you must wait for it to reach 1 again for it to be active again. When the disguise is inactive the bar will be gray and the icon black, when active it's colored and the full icon shown to make that clear. By default only helmets for the Citywatch were included thus far, with the normal Citywatch helmet offering less cover whereas the Elite Citywatch disguise gives you a greater distance and time at the expense of a cumbersome overlay. It even changes the player's person type / gender / rank so AI salute you as one of them... unfortunately this doesn't seem to have an effect in practice, maybe it can be investigated why. Further more the item sets a custom head model and skin, so when the player sees theirself in a mirror the hat accurately reflects the associated head... sadly this functionality had to be disabled due to a crash that occurs if you try to modify the model of the player's head causing a -1 model index, I filed a bug report about it and hopefully it can be resolved soon. If enough people like this to motivate me to continue, my plan for the next release is to allow stealing the helmets off guards. This might be tricky as I need to make the head frobable and have it execute my script action, which must change the model of the AI's head to their non-helmet version: Unless the same crash as the player head risks occurring, this should be doable in theory... this would also allow it to be used as an universal mod (with any FM) as you no longer rely on the items being placed by the mapper. Below is the latest version: If you're a mapper maybe add this to your FM and let me know what you think! I'm eager to hear your thoughts and see a field use case, this was only tested in a simple box map not in a practical scenario. As usual copy everything in your FM except tdm_custom_scripts.script you'll need to mix the include line with your existing one. disguises_1.0.pk4

My new FM is in beta test, and some testers are using 2.12. They have discovered a hang/crash that only happens in 2.12 (crash doesn't happen in 2.11). I am able to recreate it in 2.12 now. I run TDM in the Visual Studio debugger (using dev16829-10455). After starting the mission, I just wait a minute or so and the screen freezes. Then, I wait another couple of minutes, and the debugger reports a failed assertion. The assertion is: WARNING:ASSERTION FAILED! E:\games\darkmod_source212\idlib\containers\List.h(394): 'newsize >= 0' The callstack is: TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!AssertFailed(const char * file, int line, const char * expression) Line 75 C++ > TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idList<idPlane>::Resize(int newsize) Line 394 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idList<idPlane>::AddGrow(idPlane obj) Line 765 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 351 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FloodLightThroughArea_r(idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortalsContext & context, int areaNum, const portalStack_s * ps) Line 385 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::FlowLightThroughPortals(idRenderLightLocal * light, idFlexList<int,128> * areaIds, lightPortalFlow_t * portalFlow) Line 495 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::AddLightToAreas(idRenderLightLocal * def) Line 2038 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!R_CreateLightRefs(idRenderLightLocal * light) Line 738 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idRenderWorldLocal::UpdateLightDef(int lightHandle, const renderLight_s * rlight) Line 423 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idLight::PresentLightDefChange() Line 1076 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idLight::Present() Line 1132 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idEntity::Think() Line 2318 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idLight::Think() Line 1274 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idGameLocal::RunFrame(const usercmd_t * clientCmds, int timestepMs, bool minorTic) Line 3366 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idSessionLocal::RunGameTic(int timestepMs, bool minorTic) Line 3063 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idSessionLocal::RunGameTics() Line 3109 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idSessionLocal::FrontendThreadFunction() Line 3159 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!idSessionLocal::StartFrontendThread::__l2::<lambda>(void * x) Line 3235 C++ TheDarkModx64_debug.exe!unsigned int <lambda>(void *)::<lambda_invoker_cdecl>(void * x) Line 3236 C++ [External Code] The code in question: ID_INLINE int idList<type>::AddGrow( type obj ) { if ( num == size ) { int newsize; if ( granularity == 0 ) { // this is a hack to fix our memset classes granularity = 16; } newsize = (size * 3) >> 1; // + 50% size newsize += granularity; // round up to granularity newsize -= newsize % granularity; // Resize( newsize ); } list[ num ] = obj; num++; return num - 1; } size = 968651120, so newsize is calculated as -694506944, which causes the assertion. Obviously something is running away and the code ends up trying to resize the list to a size that is so big that it wraps around to negative. Is my mod doing something wrong that is leads to this? How do I track this down? I can supply the FM package if that will help. Or, I can set some breakpoints if there's something I can look at here. Thanks. Edit: Here's the FM: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3fg2x3w4owmku1l4gifi7/altham_crash.pk4?rlkey=z0q1gaflz5b7mifeuayoqmlug&dl=1 To reproduce the problem, start the mission (Easy difficulty), then just stand there. The guard will walk close to you but he shouldn't see you (you can always set the "notarget" console command to ensure he doesn't see you). After a few minutes, the game freezes. A few minutes after that, it crashes. Sometimes it happens in just a minute or two; other times it takes several minutes. But so far, it always happens eventually.

Beta 7 TDM FM Scanner now uses a hybrid of local and server data for more accuracy. Titles, authors, and release dates improve. AngelLoader will auto-refresh its FMs list when new pk4 FMs are added manually. Localization packs (*_l10n.pk4) in the fms directory are now ignored: the game moves these to their appropriate folders on next start. I reckon this is now pretty usable. I'm working on an in-app downloader, but until that's done, you can use the game to download FMs and AngelLoader to launch them and manage their metadata.

I'm trying to get DR to work with my Godot projects, to replace TrenchBroom, but my first attempts haven't been fruitful. I need DR to see my project's textures, 3D models and entity definitions. I told DR where to find my game in the Game Setup window, but I'm having some issues. As far as entities go, I think I'm probably fine. I unpacked a few of TDM's .pk4 files and found the folder def with many .def files. I tried placing misc.def and tdm_base.def in there, to see if DR would load those entities after restarting, and it does but only if the game type is TDM. I'm probably fine with that, as it makes no difference, as far as I can tell. The Godot importer only cares about the contents of the .map file, which I know I can export in a few formats, so that should be fine (Q3 at least should work fine). However, DR is not seeing my project's textures. I don't know if DR can work with .png files, but I brought in some .tga files from TDM for testing and DR doesn't see them either. So something is missing, but I don't know what it is. I tried placing the textures in a textures folder at the project's root, but nothing happened. Although ideally I'd like to have the textures in root/assets/textures. I haven't tried to use 3D models at all yet, so I'm in complete darkness about that. I wonder what formats DR supports, though. I usually work with .obj, which bypasses Godot's import weirdness.

I'm looking for some beta testers for my new mission, A Night in Altham: This is a large mission - not gigantic like Iris or The Painter's Wife, but bigger than anything I've done before. Content warning: In the next day or so I'll put up a thread in the beta testing forum, with a link to the pk4. Thanks!

Not to be a nag, but I was thinking about the columns problem. If you go to the view source tab in the wiki article: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Fan_Missions_for_The_Dark_Mod&action=edit The raw table data is accessible directly: |- !align=left|{{TDM-FM|written|Written in Stone}} |Bikerdude, Amadeus, Dragofer |{{Forumlink|https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21265-written-in-stone-beta-210-only-20220128/}} |2022-01-28 |338 |Yes |Yes |CCC 22, Elixir |City Missions |Undead, Horror Themes |- Each pipe character represents one of the columns.

I recently used the testSubtitlesCommander.pk4 file as a bases to test some subtitles, but the subtitles were centered small, so I asumed you already used the FIELD_MARGIN, but I couldn't find it.

Terrific! The beta test thread is up: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22238-beta-testing-the-spider-and-the-finch/

Welcome to the Dark Mod forums MarsManon! Thank you very much for the kind words about SLL, it's always nice to hear We all worked real hard on bringing Grayman's map to life and I'm glad you enjoyed it

I was so enchanted by this FM, I had to sign up to the forums the same day I finished it to come thank the authors Genuinely, truly incredible work! I was so overwhelmed in places that I resorted to just shouting joy at my monitor two, three, maybe four entirely separate times while playing. Exploring, puzzling, finding something new, trying to use it, and finding it does a whole new, separate, wonderful thing! There aren't enough words inside me to describe the feeling. It was breathtaking. I don't have any specific feedback that hasn't come through this thread before Thanks so much for making this, for all the inspiration and ingenuity and effort it took. If I never play another level this good, in any other game, in my life, I'd be fine with that.

The subtitles for The Commander vocal set is now available for eventual incorporation into TMD: testSubtitlesCommander.pk4 "Vocal Script: Commander" indicates that he "is used to leading other people. He is confident and used to being listened to. He talks a lot about plans and organization." The script has a number of evocative lines specifically for mage and merchant characters. Statistics In file fm_root.subs there are 298 inlines, including: 57 with an explicit linebreak, intending 2 lines 241 without Of these, 13 have explicit duration extensions, as follows: 8 from 0.25 to 0.49, for 17 cps 5 capped at 0.50 seconds, for 17-20 cps There are 22 SRTs, made up of: 18 with 2 messages* 4 with 3 messages *Two of these were vocalized tunes with a 2-second start message and later 2-second end message. Of the 48 total SRT messages, there are: 18 with an explicit linebreak, intending 2 lines 30 without In all, there are 320 voice clips with subtitles, showing 346 messages. Corresponding Excel File SubtitlesCommander.xlsx As usual, this is based on Version 5 of the Excel Template for TDM bark subtitles.

There's a group of players who have meticulously tested and adjusted ghosting rules for The Dark Mod. Please see: Official Ghosting Rules: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148523 Ghost Rules Discussion: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487 Why alienate an established group of dedicated players?

At the risk of derailing the conversation, here's something I threw together today. It's a re-imagining of a tiny part of the training mission, specifically the hallway where you use moss arrows to sneak up on a Builder guard and then hide his body in an upstairs storeroom. I agree with @ChronA that the training mission is only competent, not exceptional, and as a tool for attracting new players to TDM it doesn't really get the job done. One problem is that the TDM universe doesn't really have anything like the Keepers, so it's difficult to reproduce a cool training mission like A Keeper's Training. The changes I made for this tiny snippet is that the instructions are nearby, not hidden in a static book in another room. The crucial information regarding shouldering v dragging is communicated via a GUI immediately after you KO the Builder guard. @Wellingtoncrab, if you'd seen this popup on your play of the training mission would it have taken a happy accident to rediscover how to shoulder bodies later? I also added volumetric lights, EAX, and secrets because I figure if the training mission were ever to be revamped it should show off all the coolest new features :] (if you look around a bit you'll also see a shout-out to T1 architecture. because I like it, and because I think paying respects to the original is decent) ztraining.pk4

new version 1.4 The main fix in this is the issue discussed above along with some other minor fixes. Full changelog here: https://github.com/FrostSalamander/fsx/releases/tag/1.4 Downloads: Proton Drive: https://drive.proton.me/urls/ZDTKN6DDM4#8Re0CpARxcbc Github: https://github.com/FrostSalamander/fsx/releases/download/1.4/highex.pk4 @nbohr1more could you do the honours?