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Bikerdude
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Thought I would compile a list of tweaks & fixes from multiple sources for this game in an effort to help people get a playable experience, I will update this OP as we go. Minimum Requirements -

New Horizon
New Horizon

Apparently it appears to have turned itself back on after a save game....but I wonder if settings from a previous save may have been pulled into his game.

AluminumHaste
AluminumHaste

Just wanted to add to this, that the newest ATI drivers fix the missing letters when crossfire is enabled.   Also while FPS monitoring doesn't work you can use system monitoring software with on scree

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lowenz

lowenz

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About the tweaks

*Remember to disable the mouse smoothing in the ThiefInput.ini if you dislike the filtering

*Disable the VSync and force it with the Scanline Sync of RTSS+Afterburner (now the game is silky smoooth)

 

There's a never solved audio mixing problem: https://steamcommunity.com/app/239160/discussions/0/1638669204731038878/

Proof: https://www.mediafire.com/file/p2sbrw11zzlcb0n/AB.mkv/file

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Task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen but to think what nobody has yet thought about that which everybody see. - E.S.

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Witness

Witness

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Hello everyone,

After all those years... back with Garett (Thief 2014) with nVidia 3D Vision


I'm trying to use 3D Fix Manager to create a profile to activate the '3D Depth Hack' but it doesn't work...

The profile is created and recognized : Unreal Engine 3/3D Direct mode On/DirectX 10 or 11/3D Depth Hack : Override global Setting x2
I activated the wrapper 3dmigoto (DirectX 11) 1.3.16 (32 Bits) and created a Hotkey to toggle the 3D depth to 1 with the Tab key (to test the fix) but nothing si working.


Here is my config:

Windows 7 64 bits

nVidia drivers tested : 387.92 / 425.31

Thief 1.4 (Steam ID 239160) tested in 32 and 64 bits

Can somebody help me ?

Many thanks !

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Gadavre

Gadavre

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On 2/28/2014 at 2:50 PM, Bikerdude said:
  • Disable in-game fog -
    • Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config ThiefGame.ini and then find [Engine.WorldInfo] andgo to line 66
    • And then change mbEnable=TRUE to mbEnable=FALSE and then save the file as read only.

Your advice causes new bugs...  For example, in the first Сutscene of the game, the smoke from the pipes does not become realistic.

The right Solution:

[Engine.WorldInfo]

DefaultPostProcessSettings=(mSSAO=(mbEnable=TRUE, mIntensity=1.0), mWind=(mbEnable=TRUE, mbAffectVelocity=TRUE, mVelocity=(X=25, Y=10, Z=10)), mFog=(mbEnable=TRUE, mbEnableOutdoor=FALSE, mbEnableColor=TRUE, mOutdoorTex1=LA_000_Core_Fog.Layer01, mOutdoorTex2=LA_000_Core_Fog.Layer01, mOutdoorTex3=LA_000_Core_Fog.Layer01, mLayerOpacityCurve=PROG_3D_PostProcess.FogNearPlaneDensityCurve))

This needs to be done in two files: ThiefGame.ini and DefaultGame.ini

The fog is being removed in many places... It is not possible to completely disable fog in this game through the config

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Gadavre

Gadavre

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GOOD TWEAK!

 

Open Hex Editor. I recommend HxD. Find  thiefgame.u.

To disable shroud - Make a backup of thiefgame.u and then search (in Hex value) for:

    02 CD CC 4C 3F 36 CC 66 36 BC 00 01 9C DE F4 3E
    Replace with: 02 00 00 00 00 35 CC 66 36 BC 00 01 9C DE F4 3E


     to disable white flash :

    33 33 33 3F 36 18 4D 01 CD CC CC 3E 38 A9 4C C0
    Replace with: 33 33 33 3F 36 18 4D 01 00 00 00 00 38 A9 4C C0

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Taquito

Taquito

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Yes this worked chakkman thank you. Much better. 😃

 

So far I'm enjoying the game in a very Hitman Absolution type of way. The sound effects and sound design overall is simply unpresentable to me. Lack of footstep, nice pick up loot and and satisfying lock pick sound cues makes it hard for me to give the game more than a 6 out of 10. With good sounds this game could have been a 8 or 9.

Taquito

Taquito

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Found a few more tweaks that supposedly improve the game:

To improve the quality of the game you can modify the BaseEngine.ini file located in \Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\Engine\Config changing the values written below: 

[MemoryPools]
FLightPrimitiveInteractionInitialBlockSize=1024
FModShadowPrimitiveInteractionInitialBlockSize=1024
 
[SystemSettings]
...
DepthOfField=False
...
AllowImageReflections=True
AllowImageReflectionShadowing=True
SkeletalMeshLODBias=-1
ParticleLODBias=-1
...
MaxAnisotropy=16
...
MaxShadowResolution=2048
...
ResX=1920
ResY=1080
//or whatever res you will be using in gameplay
...
bEnableBranchingPCFShadows=True
...
bEnableForegroundSelfShadowing=True

 

 

I also disabled bloom via ini and looks much better.

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Taquito

Taquito

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Few pics of a Reshade Preset I've been working on. Changes the Silverish blue of the ambiance color to a more Gloomy Gold/Green ambient. Kind of HR piss effect.

OFF

Thiefop.png

ON

Thiefop1.png

 

OFF

thief1.png

 

ON

Thief.png

 

 

 

 

OFF

Thief5.png

 

ON

Thief4.png

 

 

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lowenz

lowenz

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LOL.

Recently I have reassessed the infamous "Gold Filter" of DXHR, thanks to enabling it in DC with this: CookiePLMonster/DXHRDC-GFX: A plugin for Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut, restoring the gold filter, post processing and shading from the original Deus Ex: Human Revolution (github.com)

It fixes the lighting system and the bad (really BAD) DC bloom too (you can force the original 2011 one)!

And just avoid the SSAO, it's terrible (temporally unstable) in the DC.

 

Without the Gold Filter the game really looks washed out (and see my avatar :D )

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Task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen but to think what nobody has yet thought about that which everybody see. - E.S.

Taquito

Taquito

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My issue with the Gold filter in HR is that overpowers all colors making the game monochromatic. These artistic liberties work on short games but in long games once the novelty wears down it could make the game feel monotone. Something similar happens in Thief 4. The art director made the textures almost colorless to add a bleak and sad effect to the game, cool but overtime the player might feel the game is dull and boring. Colors not only give look but also feel.

 

Bur regardless. Here's my attempt to Replicate the Gold Filter in Deus Ex Art Director's Cut 😝

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dx.png

ON

dx1.png

 

The Directors Cut has this Pinkish Copper Tone:

dx2.png

 

ON

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dx4.png

lowenz

lowenz

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The main problem of the art direction of T4 is that is *ONLY* that kind of dark (=the "gloom" fallen over the City), prologue apart.

Prologue atmosphere is just perfect

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Task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen but to think what nobody has yet thought about that which everybody see. - E.S.

Taquito

Taquito

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On 4/25/2024 at 7:36 AM, chakkman said:

@Taquito TBH, I like the original Thief 4 screenshots better. Looks darker and more coherent. To each his own, of course.

 

I wasn't really thinking about cohesiveness. i was trying to give the game a more Golden touch like in DXHR. I'm using Cinetool Lut which has many options for color combination. Each one makes the game look and feel different and it's a great Reshade Tool. 

Taquito

Taquito

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On 4/25/2024 at 11:50 AM, lowenz said:

The main problem of the art direction of T4 is that is *ONLY* that kind of dark (=the "gloom" fallen over the City), prologue apart.

Prologue atmosphere is just perfect

 

 

I like the Transition from dusk to night in the Prologue and the fact that it didn't last long. Hiding and stealing during the day feels  weird to me. I couldn't digest Mankind Divided as much as I liked the Artistic touches for this reason. The Prague map felt so Arbitrary.

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Taquito

Taquito

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On 10/17/2022 at 7:22 AM, Gadavre said:

GOOD TWEAK!

 

Open Hex Editor. I recommend HxD. Find  thiefgame.u.

To disable shroud - Make a backup of thiefgame.u and then search (in Hex value) for:

    02 CD CC 4C 3F 36 CC 66 36 BC 00 01 9C DE F4 3E
    Replace with: 02 00 00 00 00 35 CC 66 36 BC 00 01 9C DE F4 3E


     to disable white flash :

    33 33 33 3F 36 18 4D 01 CD CC CC 3E 38 A9 4C C0
    Replace with: 33 33 33 3F 36 18 4D 01 00 00 00 00 38 A9 4C C0

 

 

Found the White Flash Hex Value but not the one for the Shroud effect. I'm playing the Epic Version.

Taquito

Taquito

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Disable Lens Flares  For those making their own with Reshad or just dislike the look.

Thief Game>Config>ThiefEngine.ini  

 

Look under [SystemSettings]

LensFlares=True   to  LensFlares=False

ON

thief-11.png

OFF

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