Any tutorials on how to set up .AF ragdolls ?

[motorsep]

I can not find any tutorials on how to setup ragdolls

 

Are there any available ? Does anyone know how to set .af up using AF Editor? (potentially I can pay for a solid video tutorial)

[Obsttorte]

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Animated_static_objects

 

http://www.iddevnet.com/doom3/afs.php

[motorsep]

Thanks, but those don't explain how to set it up from scratch. These resources only describe settings of the editor or whad .AF is. That's why I am asking for actual tutorial.

[buck28]

http://wiki.thedarkm...ies&oldid=17695

 

 

That's all I've found, and It didn't help me at all. In wireframe (DR) you position your body; but when game starts, they look crucified. Could not reposition them either. They also were beheaded? I had to scrap what I was doing. I'm not much help. Sorry.

[motorsep]

@buck28: AF (ragdolls) are set up in-game, using AF Editor. In DR you make levels and place entities. There is no way to setup ragdoll in DR.

 

Although I always wondered what's with missing heads in DR or DOOMEdit ?

[Obsttorte]

You need the model and a one frame anim for the pose the af should start at. The rest is described in the tutorials linkied above.

[SteveL]

You need the model and a one frame anim for the pose the af should start at.

I've read this advice before and it's where i got stuck. How exactly do you set up an AF and go about creating that 1 frame anim? I wanted to know a couple of months ago because with a simple AF we could have hollow containers in TDM, e.g. boots you can hide a ring in. I did a good proof of concept using bound caulk brushes, which works well for controlling the contained object, but I could never get the AF set up and you need that for the container to behave right when dropped or thrown. I'll gladly wikify it if anyone spells out how to do it.

[motorsep]

Not to be obnoxious, but I am not seeing any tutorials following those links. What I see if reference manual explaining settings, and some tips. But in no way you can call that a tutorials or a guide.

[Obsttorte]

You need the model as md5mesh. This also means it must have a skeleton.

 

The animation can be created in programs which are capable of creating animated models, like Lightwave or blender.

 

Once you have this, you need a definition and an af file.

 

Knocked out or dead ai for example are using the same model as the alive ones, but the anim holds them in t-pose and with their eyes shot. The definition file points to the model, anim, af etc. and the af contains the values needed for doom3's physics engine to take care of the rest.

 

Creating af's is quite an advanced process, requiring some skill and experience.

 

Not to be obnoxious, but I am not seeing any tutorials following those links. What I see if reference manual explaining settings, and some tips. But in no way you can call that a tutorials or a guide.

 

The linked pages explain the basic things you need to know. The rest you have to teach yourself by experimenting.

 

In life you don't get everything on a silver tablet.

 

BTW, you are not obnoxious

[motorsep]

@Obsttorte: My issue is that in Doom 3, when you kill an enemy, AF starts from the pose AI died at. With my AF, ragdoll snaps to where waist is for whatever reason. Looking at it in the AF Editor doesn't really show anything odd. But somehow it seems that origin is set to be on the middle of the body at the time when AI becomes a ragdoll.

[Obsttorte]

Can't really help with that, though. Maybe whoever inplemented the ai in TDM can help with that. But I don't know who is responsible for that.

[NeonsStyle]

Does this mean you can't take an AI (dead) and say hang them from a hook say through their abdomen (as in

Algerian Hook torture?

[SteveL]

I'm sure you can do that. Wouldn't the physics take care of the pose? I've seen a few realistically hanging bodies in maps... most recently PD2. They were hanging by the more conventional neck so you'd want to change the joint that binds them to the rope.

[Springheel]

Those hanging bodies were done using an animation, not a ragdoll. Apparently that is more difficult than it looks.

[SteveL]

Ah ok, thanks for the correction.

[HMart]

Those hanging bodies were done using an animation, not a ragdoll. Apparently that is more difficult than it looks.

 

Sorry to be replying so late to this, but GRIMM has hanged ragdolls, not humanoid based but he used them to simulate cloth drapes, perhaps you can ask the developer how he did that?